Could Damon Huard Be Trade Bait?

It's called part of being an editor on WordPress. I can edit absolutely anything, not just comments and posts. I seldom ever even edit my comments either, mainly I just add to them to keep from double posting, if even that. Besides, when do I say shitty things? I've never had anybody else say that to me. We always go out of our way to be nice to our readers, we just don't always agree with them. And the comments threads are working very well right now. They have spell check and coding enabled, so all you have to do is look it over before you send.

I am done arguing with you--permanently. You absolutely cannot handle it. You also can't handle not getting the last word, so I'm closing down this comments thread. Sorry to everybody else.

Also, it's sure handy that you get the option to go back and edit your comments. Makes you come out smelling like roses even when you say shitty things, huh? At least include an edit notification, or something else equally respectable. That's not a demand, it's a reasonable request.

My mistake on the names. But yes, Bruce Gradkowski was more successful with the Bucs than Chris Simms. He's who they put in when Simms sucked so bad they benched him, and he actually won games.

And last time I checked, you were the one who jumped on me for having a different opinion -- NOT the other way around.

"SeanB, stop while you’re behind. That Joey Harrington comment was just embarrassing."

Yes. That's me freaking out all right. Negative. That's you condemning people for their opinions, while throwing your support behind a guy who has done nothing in this league but prove he's a bad quarterback, and that's given 5 years to do something on a team without an established quarterback. If Brodie has performed the way Simms has after his next three or four years, I'm all for finding someone new. In the meantime, let's avoid this scenario:

-- Adam posts a new blog

-- Sean expresses his opinion

-- Adam scoffs at Sean's opinion and acts as if Sean is a blithering idiot for even daring to think something so foolish. As we all know, Adam is a well-respected expert.

-- Sean defends his opinion

-- Adam claims Sean can't accept the views of others

(CSMQB says in a darth vader voice)" Brodie i am your father"

You want statistics? Chris Simms has actually won games in the NFL, had a better winning percentage in college and averaged a better QB rating than Brodie in both college and the NFL so far. If he's inept, what in the fuck is Brodie?

Besides, this is an op-ed site, where people come to read our opinions and share their own. Heaven forbid I have actually do what I'm supposed to and share my opinion. If you're mad that we're not an overly pro-Brodie site, go start your own. Nothing's stopping you. ProBrodie.com is available. I'll even buy the domain name for you just to see it launch :) I'm joking. And you're always welcome to share your opinion, just don't freak out when we disagree.

Stephen Gostkowski is a kicker, by the way. I was talking about Bruce Gradkowski, who's not as good as Simms.

I'm really done now. Nothing more to prove after whipping out those "statistics."

Stephen Gostkowski is a much better option than Simms in my opinion. He has actually had success with the same team that Chris Simms has been so inept with.

Also, I'd like to see a comment in which I said "I like to argue". Because I don't. It just so happens that you are apparently the end-all-be-all of football and everything you say is always right and no one else has any clue about anything. The problem being that your arguments tend to lack any statistical or logical reasoning. If you don't want to get "bitchslapped" (your word, not mine) then try backing up your statements every once in a while.

You've stated before that you like to argue (rolls eyes).

A.) I never said to go with him instead of Brodie. I simply want to add a young player like him to give us a better chance of churning out a QB, because right now I don't like our chances. Huard is certainly not the guy, so why have him around? If not Simms, let's bring in someone else. I like the chances of us hitting one out of three much better than one out of two. I want another young guy as an insurance policy in case we strike out on Croyle and Thigpen, which easily could happen. The rebuilding project will fall flat without a QB, so let's up our odds of finding a bit. Right?

B.) Simms is not a bad quarterback. He's shown quite a bit of promise despite having a putrid offense around him. I've watched him play quite a bit. Gradkowski wouldn't be a bad option either. One of those guys are going to get cut, and both have the experience needed to be a back-up, yet are still young.

Again, I'm done arguing with you. Never meant to even get on Brodie here, as you'll notice I didn't even mention his name in the post. Why? Because a few of you guys go nuts any time I give my honest freakin' opinion about him. You're the President of the Brodie fan club, his biggest cheerleader. You defend him more valiantly than Colts fans would Peyton Manning. Are you related to him or something? My dear God...Done :) Just have to explain myself when you put words in my mouth that I didn't say. Not going to get bitchslapped on my own site.

I don't like to argue, your logic just doesn't make sense.

You'd rather sign a QB who has proven himself to be a bad QB than go with a couple who are totally unproven and have potential.

Trading Huard and signing Chris Simms instead of going with Brodie would be like the Cardinals trading Kurt Warner and signing David Carr instead of going with Matt Leinart. It doesn't make sense.

Glenn Dorsey is about as proven of a college player as we've seen in about a decade, dude. Comparing him to Brodie--or Brian Johnston, which you did previously--is asinine. All Dorsey did is demolish everything in his path on the way towards leading LSU to a National Championship--playing in your so-called toughest conference in college football. If he doesn't pan out it will be a shocker, not the other way around. You can't say that about Croyle, Johnston or any of the other young Chiefs. Maybe Branden Albert. Maybe. Dorsey is as close to a sure thing as you can draft.

I just don't believe in Brodie or Thigpen, so I want another young QB as insurance. This rebuilding plan won't work unless it has a QB. I'm not talking to you about Croyle any more. Sometimes I forget you're from Alabama, not to mention that you like to argue more than Matlock and Perry Mason combined.

Again: Glenn Dorsey. You worship the ground he walks on, yet he's never played a snap in the NFL. Talk about cheering for an unproven player. Play that "soundbite" all you want, because it only makes you look dumb, not Brodie believers.

Also, as far as college success goes, Chris Simms and Brodie Croyle aren't that far off. They both has 2 seasons in college in which they started 10 games or more. In Croyle's first of those, he started 11 games, playing most of those with aggravations from a separated shoulder and two cracked ribs (which he didn't reveal to the public). And you call Croyle not tough? In the season Croyle got to start where he actually wasn't injured and had an OK team around him, Bama almost went undefeated. When did Chris Simms ever get that close to going undefeated? Not to mention the SEC is the toughest conference in college football.

On the pro level, neither QB has proved anything, though Simms has had way more time to do it. He's been in the league twice as long as Croyle. What has he done to make you think he's so good? Anything but Brodie Croyle for you, I guess.

No, I'm not calling anybody a hypocrite. I'm saying it's hypocritical to throw such blind support behind Brodie, yet bash another young QB who was a better college player and has been a better pro player thus far. Man, anytime I go near the QB situation the Brodie Backers just swarm around me like a bunch of blood-thirsty piranhas. And I am a lot of things, but I am certainly not a hypocrite :)

Time to replay that schmuck34 soundbite:

(sometimes a man can only handle so much cheering about a player that has yet to prove himself I suppose)

Adam, YOU are calling ME a hypocrite. Thanks for the laugh.

Very interesting read about Croyle, Huard, and Simms.

Considering how many FNGs we have that will probably be starting come September any of the three QB ratings will be quite a bit lower than one might expect from a Field General who commands the game through respect granted by his team-mates. Respect is "earned" in the trenches ... and it will take more than a few battles to see who earns their star.

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Nice piece of work there Adam. By the way, if you have Dashboard/Admin authority, and you can locate my email address, I'd appreciate an email from you so we may exchange contact information in order to discuss some crazy things I intend to do with/for NFL Fans.

I really enjoy reading the give and take!

I just couldn't disagree with you more. Chris Simms has displayed promise during his career, even a little bit of moxie during some of his comeback wins. Yes, unlike somebody we know, he's actually won games. That's all I have to say. Just couldn't take the hypocrisy of guys that support someone who has done nothing slamming a guy who has done some things.

"sometimes a man can only handle so much cheering about a player that has yet to prove himself I suppose"

Are you kidding me here, Adam? You're practically Glenn Dorsey's personal towel boy.

Hey man, Joey Harrington sucks but I've seen him perform well before. He at least has the capability. Chris Simms just isn't a good QB and he never will be. He was even on a team that actually had a defense supporting him.

If this comment were a soundbite, I'd play it over and over and over. Well said, schmuck34:

(sometimes a man can only handle so much cheering about a player that has yet to prove himself I suppose)

That defines our "Earn Your Arrowhead" philosophy perfectly.

SeanB, stop while you're behind. That Joey Harrington comment was just embarrassing.

Nobody here has expressed complete and total confidence in Brodie Croyle. Supporters simply think he has the tools, and hope he can develop his potential into something more (ie. being our starting QB for a while). However, I would rather have him than Chris Simms any day. Chris Simms has actually had a chance to prove himself with the Buccaneers and he hasn't done much with it. I'd rather start Joey Harrington, to be honest.

If Croyle performs just awfully this year, I'll listen to talk about trading for/drafting another quarterback. But let's see what we can do with what we've got first.

I want to state, that I do not dislike Brodie Croyle. He is a terrific human being and does admirable work volunteering his time to troubled and abused children. I sincerely hope him the best in life and in football, and can only hope my assessments of his playing ability are incorrect.
(sometimes a man can only handle so much cheering about a player that has yet to prove himself I suppose)

If Simms was a Chief, he'd be competing for a starting job. I'm not overrating Simms, I dont like him enough to do that, but he is AT LEAST as good as Croyle, most likely better. For one thing, he was won NFL gameS, I emphasis the "S" seeing as Brodie hasn't won one. He has a knack for comebacks, which shows confidence and leadership ability, which Croyle has shown none of. Although I imagine it's hard to have a lot of confidence getting hit as much as he does, he still has the shy/young guy/unsure thing going on in.

Our supreme confidence in Brodie Croyle is ludicrous. He wouldn't even be considered for a starting position on any other NFL team. It's a relative thing, evaluating talent among your own team. I mean if we had even a second tier star at QB, (i.e. Jon Kitna, Matt Hasselback, Jay Cutler) Brodie would look like the true career backup type that he is.

Thank you, juices-flowing. I could go out there and hold on to the ball, look scared, tuck and take sacks. Let's move on. If he's not gotten used to getting hit by now, he never will. And make no mistake about it, he would get hit behind this line.

I am split on Huard. I admired him in 2006 for playing solid, I still think he should have started over Green against the Dolts. However, last season was a nightmare. It wasn't all his fault, but dude just looked slow and old. I wanted Croyle to start every game last season. At this point, Huard is a non-factor to me. We have two young guys in camp, Huard is the odd guy out. I wish him well in whatever happens, but I pray we don't have to dip into the well of Huard ever again.

It's funny to me that you guys bash Chris Simms, yet are the same guys who adamantly defend Brodie Croyle. I mean, both are young, and who's had more success? On both levels--college and pro. Simms, end of story. He's much tougher, too, as he came back and played with a ruptured spleen for a scoring drive, which could have been fatal.

I still like Chris Simms and don't think he's done in this league. A couple years from retirement? HE'S 27, DUDE! Gimme a break. He's played for one team, and that team hasn't exactly been an offensive juggernaut no matter who's been under center.

As far as Damon, why keep him if he's not going to be the primary back-up, especially with his salary? Then again, I'm not a big fan of his, so...

If Dallas is indeed interested, I say move him for a day two pick, then bring in another young guy.

Lord no, please no Chris Simms!

Chris is awful, or "useless" is a much better word used by SEANBCOOL.

I have no problem trading Huard, but no need to go out a fill his vacant spot with trash.

What's the facination with Chris Simms? You want to trade one mediocre back up for another? Simms has NEVER been a good QB.

I have no problem with shuttling off Huard and bringing another young QB in to start learning the system, but honestly, who would want him? He's a couple years from retirement and has never done anything really worthwhile in the NFL.

I saw some yak over on thelaundryhat about the Vaqueros being interested in Damon as Romo's backup - and that one kind of made sense to me.... Dallas has plenty of things to trade we could use, including some young Olinemen, some wideouts, some cornerbacks... and draft picks of course... though I suspect even their 1st rounder next year will be a high 20's slot.

From KC's standpoint, it would seem odd to me if they do let him go. There's some guys on this team that deserve a chance to win even this year - most particularly TonyG and Brian Waters. If by some miracle, the team gels early and has a chance to make the miraculous turnaround THIS year... it would be a shame if they had to rely on someone as green and raw as Thigpen if Croyle should go down.

That said, the team knows VERY WELL what they have in Huard, so giving Thigpen as many reps in preseason as possible is a prudent move. Should he be the number 2 guy THIS year. Emphatically NO. If KC is going to trade Huard, they need to sign another experienced backup - a Chris Simms would be OK in that role as well as others.

Finally, looking at it from Huard's standpoint... it would be only fitting if we traded him to Dallas where he might have a chance at a ring after a long journeyman's career conducted with class and humility. It would even be the right thing to do. I think trading him would require KC to send him to a team with real championship possibilities THIS year.

Do I think they'll trade him? No. They signed him last year to a 3 year deal for 7.5 million. 2.5 million for a guy with his ability and character is a friggin bargain in today's market. KC will keep him.

Dude, Chris Simms is useless. Damon isn't going anywhere right now. There's no way the Chiefs will have three completely unproven and inexperienced quarterbacks on the roster.