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		<title>By: Double D</title>
		<link>http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/07/13/more-dr-favrenstein/comment-page-1/#comment-15868</link>
		<dc:creator>Double D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam&#039;s Schefter&#039;s commentary on NFL.com suggests that Favre has the leverage to veto any trade that  GB proposes if he doesn&#039;t like where the trade lands him.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8094bd7a&amp;template=with-video&amp;confirm=true

If Schefter is right, then it seems to me that a team like KC would be in a good position to play strawman for a deal that ultimately puts Favre in, say, Minnesota, and that would give GB&#039;s mgmt an out with fans/owners by pointing out that did everything they could to avoid dealing him directly to a division rival but that in the end they had no control over what another team did with him once he was gone.  GB saves face, Favre gets another shot with a contender, Chiefs get a high pick. Everybody wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam&#8217;s Schefter&#8217;s commentary on NFL.com suggests that Favre has the leverage to veto any trade that  GB proposes if he doesn&#8217;t like where the trade lands him.<br />
<a href="http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8094bd7a&amp;template=with-video&amp;confirm=true" rel="nofollow">http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8094bd7a&amp;template=with-video&amp;confirm=true</a></p>
<p>If Schefter is right, then it seems to me that a team like KC would be in a good position to play strawman for a deal that ultimately puts Favre in, say, Minnesota, and that would give GB&#8217;s mgmt an out with fans/owners by pointing out that did everything they could to avoid dealing him directly to a division rival but that in the end they had no control over what another team did with him once he was gone.  GB saves face, Favre gets another shot with a contender, Chiefs get a high pick. Everybody wins.</p>
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		<title>By: Double D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Double D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well</p>
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		<title>By: SEANBCOOL</title>
		<link>http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/07/13/more-dr-favrenstein/comment-page-1/#comment-15866</link>
		<dc:creator>SEANBCOOL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read an article on Pro Football Talk that said a double trade of that nature was unlikely.  It said there would probably be some sort of clause that would increase that second day pick to a first rounder or something if Favre was traded to an NFC North rival.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read an article on Pro Football Talk that said a double trade of that nature was unlikely.  It said there would probably be some sort of clause that would increase that second day pick to a first rounder or something if Favre was traded to an NFC North rival.</p>
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		<title>By: Double D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Double D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scenario - Chiefs take Favre in exchange for day 2 pick, then immediately deal him to a team that is likely to give us 1st/2nd round pick for him (e.g., Minnesota, Chicago, Tampa Bay, etc).  Talk about pissing off some people in Wisconsin . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scenario &#8211; Chiefs take Favre in exchange for day 2 pick, then immediately deal him to a team that is likely to give us 1st/2nd round pick for him (e.g., Minnesota, Chicago, Tampa Bay, etc).  Talk about pissing off some people in Wisconsin . . .</p>
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		<title>By: JASON</title>
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		<dc:creator>JASON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one more point: say brodie fails miserably this year, and we miss out on the potential Quinn/Anderson sweepstakes, who in our organization has shown that they can:
see talent in a qb?
groom said qb into an nfl starter?
Lip Curl? oh i mean dick
damon huard? career backup
brodie? you mean the guy who couldnt beat out huard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one more point: say brodie fails miserably this year, and we miss out on the potential Quinn/Anderson sweepstakes, who in our organization has shown that they can:<br />
see talent in a qb?<br />
groom said qb into an nfl starter?<br />
Lip Curl? oh i mean dick<br />
damon huard? career backup<br />
brodie? you mean the guy who couldnt beat out huard?</p>
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		<title>By: JASON</title>
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		<dc:creator>JASON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and i want to stress that im hoping that brodie excels in whatever situation happens over the course of his career, be it with us as a starter, backup, or with some other team in some capacity. i just want what gives us the best shot at winning</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and i want to stress that im hoping that brodie excels in whatever situation happens over the course of his career, be it with us as a starter, backup, or with some other team in some capacity. i just want what gives us the best shot at winning</p>
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		<title>By: JASON</title>
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		<dc:creator>JASON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wait a superbowl victory wouldnt be much for us to brag about? DD i call bullshit on that point because you and every other chiefs fan would be just as excited as if anyone else was the qb.
 furthermore, your comparison is lacking only one thing,the injuries brodie has endured. smart money is on brodie getting hurt before favre. we&#039;re talking about the guy who has started more consecutive games than anyone in HISTORY. and comparing him to a guy who has two repaired knees,and missed time in each of his nfl seasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wait a superbowl victory wouldnt be much for us to brag about? DD i call bullshit on that point because you and every other chiefs fan would be just as excited as if anyone else was the qb.<br />
 furthermore, your comparison is lacking only one thing,the injuries brodie has endured. smart money is on brodie getting hurt before favre. we&#8217;re talking about the guy who has started more consecutive games than anyone in HISTORY. and comparing him to a guy who has two repaired knees,and missed time in each of his nfl seasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Double D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Double D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Favre early problems are as good an argument as you&#039;ll find for sticking with a young, unproven QB that you hope eventually becomes your franchise guy.  It&#039;s called commitment to a plan and belief in the people you hire to implement it. It is a formula for long term success.

Given his recent history, you can just as easily assume that Favre could just as easily hurt this year as help.  There is no way you can absolutely assume he will have a good year especially with a new team that doesn&#039;t even run the WC offense.

Today&#039;s Favre (and yesterday&#039;s Favre) is/was anything but a sure thing. He most likely will not single-handedly win us a championship (but he certainly would all the credit if the team somehow did manage it). Most importantly, he can do little to help us build a winning program. He is neither coach nor mentor, he is simply an on-the-field- improvisor and I see nothing of value that he could impart to the younger players through his presence. As I said above, even if he did come in and ride herd over a SB win, I believe most everybody, myself included, would view it as a shallow, fleeting, mercenary episode where he would get all the glory. While that might be momentarily fun for KC, it would be not good for the lockerroom, not good for the future of the team, and ultimately nothing much to brag about for us as fans.

&quot;Bardy&quot; (reportedly a big fan of Shakespeare btw) might be an option for next year if our QB situation completely falls apart this season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Favre early problems are as good an argument as you&#8217;ll find for sticking with a young, unproven QB that you hope eventually becomes your franchise guy.  It&#8217;s called commitment to a plan and belief in the people you hire to implement it. It is a formula for long term success.</p>
<p>Given his recent history, you can just as easily assume that Favre could just as easily hurt this year as help.  There is no way you can absolutely assume he will have a good year especially with a new team that doesn&#8217;t even run the WC offense.</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s Favre (and yesterday&#8217;s Favre) is/was anything but a sure thing. He most likely will not single-handedly win us a championship (but he certainly would all the credit if the team somehow did manage it). Most importantly, he can do little to help us build a winning program. He is neither coach nor mentor, he is simply an on-the-field- improvisor and I see nothing of value that he could impart to the younger players through his presence. As I said above, even if he did come in and ride herd over a SB win, I believe most everybody, myself included, would view it as a shallow, fleeting, mercenary episode where he would get all the glory. While that might be momentarily fun for KC, it would be not good for the lockerroom, not good for the future of the team, and ultimately nothing much to brag about for us as fans.</p>
<p>&#8220;Bardy&#8221; (reportedly a big fan of Shakespeare btw) might be an option for next year if our QB situation completely falls apart this season.</p>
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		<title>By: SEANBCOOL</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Double D&#039;s point, JASON, is that we should stick with Brodie and let him prove himself.  And I completely agree with him.

I find it puzzling that the same fans who have sat through veteran plug-in after veteran plug-in at QB over the years and watched it accomplish basically nothing are so unwilling to embrace the possibility of a home-grown product.  Let&#039;s try something new here, guys.

Croyle needs to be the guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Double D&#8217;s point, JASON, is that we should stick with Brodie and let him prove himself.  And I completely agree with him.</p>
<p>I find it puzzling that the same fans who have sat through veteran plug-in after veteran plug-in at QB over the years and watched it accomplish basically nothing are so unwilling to embrace the possibility of a home-grown product.  Let&#8217;s try something new here, guys.</p>
<p>Croyle needs to be the guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzy D. from the NE!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzy D. from the NE!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, long time reader/first time poster!

I&#039;m with you, DJ. I think that for themost part Chiefs fans think we&#039;re in the middle of the pack rather than towards the extreme bottom. A Favre or Derek Anderson or Koren Robinson or &lt;strike&gt;Ty Law&lt;/strike&gt; whoever here won&#039;t do any good. This team is just too far gone to be &quot;fixed&quot; this year.

It might not be fair to compare Croyle to one of the Mannings, but it is generally accepted to let a QB play for some time before judging him. Everyone sucks at first. Anyone calling Croyle a failure atthis point is retarded. Let him blow up for good or for bad first.

Uhh... Adam, your &lt;i&gt;Homer&lt;/i&gt; is showing. Is that why you said &quot;your piece?&quot; :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, long time reader/first time poster!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you, DJ. I think that for themost part Chiefs fans think we&#8217;re in the middle of the pack rather than towards the extreme bottom. A Favre or Derek Anderson or Koren Robinson or <strike>Ty Law</strike> whoever here won&#8217;t do any good. This team is just too far gone to be &#8220;fixed&#8221; this year.</p>
<p>It might not be fair to compare Croyle to one of the Mannings, but it is generally accepted to let a QB play for some time before judging him. Everyone sucks at first. Anyone calling Croyle a failure atthis point is retarded. Let him blow up for good or for bad first.</p>
<p>Uhh&#8230; Adam, your <i>Homer</i> is showing. Is that why you said &#8220;your piece?&#8221; <img src='http://arrowheadaddict.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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