The Landry Hat Gets Four Pinocchios
Oh, hell no! They went Disney on us? Well, an eye for an eye, baby. And at least we’re tying our images in, adding a little insult to the image. Peter Pan? Cinderella? No explanation? WTF? Sweet imagination. Walt would be ashamed of you. Speaking of images, instead of bringing a knife to a gunfight, that effort is kind of like a retarded kid bringing MS Paint to a Photoshop showdown. Hey, he tried. We do more than try around these parts.
Now, the Pinocchio/Jiminy Cricket reference isn’t because most Cowboys fans are fairweather coattail riders that jumped on board during either the golden Landry years or The Triplets era. It’s a reference to the straight up whoppers the lead blogger of The Landry Hat, Dan T., has been telling.
Whopper No. 1: Marion Barber, at this point and time, is better than Larry Johnson.
Reality: The stats in no way, shape or form support that. L.J. has consistently been a top-five rusher since taking over for Priest Holmes, and the statistics support that. Easily. Barber has never recorded a 1,000-yard or 20-touchdown season, and last year he couldn’t even beat out Julius Jones. Barber is a fine player, but he isn’t nearily as accomplished or feared at this juncture.
Whopper No. 2: Jason Witten, at this point and time, is better than Tony Gonzalez.
Reality: Witten has never topped Gonzalez head-to-head in catches or yards in any of his five seasons. Dan has tried to compare the way they began their careers to say Witten is/has been the better player, which makes about as much since as an asshole on an elbow, but I digress. There is no reasoning with this guy. This argument has absolutely no merit.
We have no choice but to implement the Washington Post’s “Pinocchio Test” as a result of these fantastic whoppers, and give Dan T. a score of FOUR PINOCCHIOS for his tall tale shenanigans. Congrats to The Landry Hat! You are flushing blogger credibility down the toilet with each post. Appreciate that.
You got played like a puppet, son. Don’t make us go Dumbo on that ass.
Witten better than Tony G?
I read that about 4000 times and i still can’t reason it in my head. He’s crazy, seriously, we need to just lock him in a room with padding and leave him alone
June 9th, 2008 at 1:44 amMore like fisted like a puppet.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:18 amWhat an idiot.
June 9th, 2008 at 3:13 amHe’s just trying to start crap between us because we actually post and he wants site traffic to get revenue. Notice how there are only a couple of Dallas fans, a couple of Redskin fans, and alot of Chiefs fans?
Yep, publicity stunt. I think TO is rubbing off on the homers. You know, because he demands that he drops so many balls/game.
June 9th, 2008 at 7:52 amSAINT, sorry but my site is historically one of the most visited in the network. Try again. Try again.
I backed up my opinions with facts. Comparing Witten’s and Tony’s first five years (Come on!! Witten hasn’t played 11 damn years so I can only compare their first five seasons, because if you think Witten will get worse, then, well, you all need help) is the fairest way to do it.
Need traffic? You dinks.
June 9th, 2008 at 9:14 amHonestly its really really funny to claim Witten is better than TG…mostly because by pure stats, Gonzo is better, and if you care about blocking, which I do, Gonzo is MUCH better, add in that hes a team leader, and can have a good season with anyone behind center, and there is no case…
I am not a huge LJ fan, but to claim Barber is better at this point is kinda funny…Barber has issues holding the football and honestly hes not near the pure runner that LJ is, however LJ cant block or catch, I think Barber has the potential to be better, but would need to be the featured back for 16 games to get the label as better than LJ…
Yes, the Boys have had a much better run since 1990, however that isnt the point, we are comparing Witten to Gonzo, LJ to Barber, and honestly Winslow/Gates are both more complete TE’s, and I can name off about 10-12 backs at the talent level or better than Barber…Shall we? LJ/LT/Ronnie Brown/Marshawn Lynch/Maroney/Parker/Jackson/Westbrook/AP/Addai…thats 11 RB’s better than Barber, and I havent even named off all of em.
June 9th, 2008 at 10:29 amComparing Witten to Gonzalez is stupid, PERIOD. Saying Witten is better than T-Gon is ridiculous in any aspect. Tony might be on the tail-end of his career, but he’s still the best TE in the league until he retires. He is the epidomy of a complete TE, something no other team has. You stirring up this controversy tells me one of two things:
1)You’re stupid
2)You’re site isn’t getting alot of hits lately so you’re making your own “news” up to blog about.
Frankly, I’m going with 1) and 2).
June 9th, 2008 at 10:41 amKC
June 9th, 2008 at 10:44 amBarber is the hardest back to take down in the NFL period. 95 percent of the time it takes more than one or two guys to take him down. He has fumbled 6 times and did not loose any of them. I have no problem with a guy fumbling cuse hes trying to grind for extra yards and especially if we recover it. Notice that all the backs that you think are better than BARBER are all STARTERS and had way over 204 attempts.
That is the point. Thanks for making it. Marion couldn’t win the starting job and they just used a 1st round pick on a RB. You don’t see the Chargers drafting running backs in the first round, do you?
June 9th, 2008 at 10:47 amAddicts go vote for Tony:
http://fansided.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=470&start=0
June 9th, 2008 at 10:48 amZach you dont see anyone comparing Barber to Tomlinson do you so give it a rest. Oh and Barber did win the Starting Job that happened the end of last year. And we run a dual back system which requires 2 RB so that answers your question. Didnt the Steelers pick up Mendenhall with thier first when they have Willie Parker.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:13 amGreat running backs force their coach out of a 2 back system. So again a weak argument.
The last time I checked Willie Parker has been in the league a bit longer and is coming off a broken right fibula injury. Also Willie Parker isn’t in most peoples top 10.
Dan and the other guys at least bring it, but everything I have read from you is embarrassing.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:28 amOne more thing LJ was a starter for only half a season and you don’t see us bitching about being in a 2 back system and not being able to get 1,000 yards.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:29 amIM not bitching becasue we Win. Yea i guess my facts are embarrassing to you.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:34 amZach
June 9th, 2008 at 11:51 amAll you keep doing is comparing Barber to Tomlnson. And your saying what iv said is embarassing? We dont need a Tomlinson to Win Games you moron, Were a Pass Offense and WIN Games with Barber. So you can say all your crap about how great backs force thier coaches out of a two back system, but if you dont Win then whats the point.
Just curious what have you won in the last 10 years? Neither team has won a playoff game in that time span. Here are the records in the last 10 years:
Chiefs: 80-80
Cowboys: 80-80
June 9th, 2008 at 11:56 amWhat have you won with Barber? Romo? TO? Oh yah thats right you helped in the Giants and Eli Manning a Championship
June 9th, 2008 at 11:57 amAnd the Parker comment was towards KCPOLLARD becasue he feels that Parker is better than Barber and then Zach comments about why did the cowboys draft a RB with thier first pick if Barbers so good. So I say if Parker is better than Barbr why did they draft a Rb with thier First rounder? Hmm maybe depth.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:59 amOH AND ZACH Willie Parker has only been playing 1 year longer than Barber so do some research before you start making “embarassing” comments
He is 3 years older and has a broken right fibula injury under his belt. Again you make my point for me
If the Steelers felt he was fine and could handle the load of a #1 back they wouldn’t have selected Mendenhall. Get out of here before you embarrass yourself anymore…
June 9th, 2008 at 12:03 pmGo pull your string somewhere else Cowboy…
June 9th, 2008 at 12:08 pmZach
Haha good one, What was your record last year becsue I didnt even see a highlight of a chiefs game. hmm maybe cuse there were none. O and 32nd in the league in Rushing. Thast what happens when your superstar running back goes down, who “forced” his coach out of the dual back system and now look what happened. Thats why it pays off to have a dual back system
June 9th, 2008 at 12:09 pmWow you relly are Nerd.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:14 pm“Wow you relly are Nerd”
Nice comment…
June 9th, 2008 at 12:16 pmBottom of the Division it must have sucked knowing your season was over halfway through the season man no wonder you guys are so good at posting Toy Story and Disney Pictures.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:19 pmBut on a serious note you guys should try to get your money back.
Funny thing is Dan started the Disney pics, so go talk to him….
June 9th, 2008 at 12:20 pmhaha “nice commnet” you posted a damn woody doll and told me to pull my string somewhere else.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:20 pmThats how i know your gay
Besides being a Gay Nerd, I gotta respect your homerism, you gotta understand were used to arguing with skins,eagles,and Giants fans, it always turns into whos team has the most crimnals, or Which QB is gay, or who has the hottest girlfrend on the team. And then shortly followed by death threats and suicides
June 9th, 2008 at 12:26 pmWow, insulting me like a middle school kid would. Mad props to you….
June 9th, 2008 at 12:28 pmYou know how I know you are gay?
Because you spell and write like Lennie from Of Mice and Men.
Seriously, TD, you are in way over your head here.
And something I always like to bring up is that fans don’t fucking play the games. I have to remind Cowboys and Steelers fans and the likes of that sometimes.
So, considering we haven’t won a Super Bowl in nearly four decades yet have the best attendence in the league, wouldn’t that give us bragging rights as the league’s best fans? I think so.
Go suck on Wade Phillips man-boobs some more, cretin. Your arguments were disgraceful.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:32 pmMore like VDCowboys. You’re like a venereal disease–we can’t get rid of your slimey ass! Get outta here! Go back to the depths from which you came, also called TLH.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:36 pmAgain picking on the grammar maybe I should work on that. Im gonna go Cry because the Nfls Worst Team but “greatest” fans(its the only thing they have so ill give it em) called me a VD an told me to suck manboobs.Hey Zach what grade does that insult come from.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:48 pmAdam wat kinda VD did you get thats slimey, you gotta stop messin with those Inbred hookers man seriously.
Inbred hookers. Huh, I saw a couple of those driving through Oklahoma on my way to Austin. I think they were actually closer to the Texas border. Anyway, sorry about the tears. I’m sure Dan will be a good shoulder to cry on. And keep taking credit for what happens on the field. You have a lot to do with that success, buddy!
June 9th, 2008 at 12:57 pmTHIS JUST IN:
TONY ROMO IS BETTER THAN TOM BRADY AND PEYTON MANNING COMBINED AND TO OWNS RANDY MOSS.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:58 pmIlove when idiots try to make claims about statistics when they obviously haven’t looked at them.
“Tony was the only receiving option on your team!”
-OK. Then why did we have one or two receivers with nearly identical or more yards than him in ‘02, ‘03, ‘04, and ‘05? Why did Eddie Kennison have back to back 1000 yard seasons if there was no one else to throw to? Bitch please.
“But look at last year!”
-Uh, Dwayne Bowe? Nearly 1000 yard season.
It’s funny how these Cowguys think they’re all BAMF compared to the Chiefs who are in full blown rebuilding mode.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:59 pmBut seriously guys, give those Cowboys fans and their leather assless chaps a break. They can’t help it. I think it’s something in the Texas air. The same something that causes groups like the Republic of Texas and polygamist cults.
They’re all a bunch of fucking delusional weirdos and there’s really no sense in messing with them anymore.
June 9th, 2008 at 1:02 pmHow am i in over my head, (besides not taking the time to spell properly) Your one of the worst Teams in football, you wont be good for awhile. I dont care how loyal you are that wont stop people from hating on your team. Zach you used a quote on TLH “As Ric Flair says”, “You gotta beat the man, to be the man.” So until you guys do better than last in you division the only thing you have to talk about is Grammar corrections and Telling people to suck boobs.
IISaintII are we talking about nearlys or actuall stats. If you guys wanna bitch abut how Barber didnt rush for 1000yds when he was 25yds short the dont throw “Nearly 1000yds out there” When Bowe didn have 1000yds receiving. Ya kinda petty dont ya think
June 9th, 2008 at 1:09 pmGreat point! D-Bo had more yards receiving as a rookie than Barber had rushing last year. Wow, thanks, VD.
Keep taking credit for the on-field success, man. You, T.O. and Tony together can go all the way–to the Promised Land! Maybe you could hold on extra points or something. Nevermind, you guys are pretty good at executing those.
June 9th, 2008 at 1:21 pmMan you have short term memory. We went to the playoffs just two years ago and we weren’t last in our division.
Your grammar is terrible, but I will stop picking on you because I know kids with learning disabilities.
Well it is a bit different to, considering Bowe is a WR and he was a rookie. Barber only had 538 yards rushing his rookie year. So maybe Bowe is better than Barber too considering the way you Cowboys fans compare statistics.
June 9th, 2008 at 1:24 pmNo, not petty. Rushing and receiving are totally different things. But if you insist on using this comparison… Marion Barber was 25 yards short, you say? Dwayne Bowe was 5 yards short. And, despite your team being ’so badass’ you havn’t won a playoff game since adding these ‘awesome, superstar Offensive players.’ You’ve got a good line, good WR’s, including one star, a ‘beast’ you say, for a TE *snicker*, Tony throwing ‘accurate super-well-thrown balls’ and a dual back system that is flawless, including a ‘top 5′ back in the league in Barber… and you’re talking trash. And yet we both havn’t won a playoff game in that time frame. For all your talks about winning, look at both of our regular season, and post season records, since you guys last went to the super bowl. Go ahead, add up the results, double check them with a calculator, and get back to me. For one, I’m interested on if you can count, let alone comprehend addition. For two, you’re going to provide ample proof that while you think you’re better than us, you’re sadly mistaken, and we STILL have the better fans, which you already admitted. All-in-all, it will be a good day.
June 9th, 2008 at 1:31 pmis a team not allowed to rebuild? Honestly I’d rather be where we are now than where we were…The Gonzo argument is weak, and if all you have to pick out of the 11 backs I named, which by the way, was just the first 11 teams I thought of, is willie parker, then your argument for barber is weak…D-bo had more yards than he did, and we had the worst o-line possibly in team history…every team rebuilds, but at least with our past draft it shows improvement, Barber is a 2 system back at best, hes good, but hes not great, and has not shown he can go 16 games and take a pounding all season…when he can, return with your weak argument, since by then LJ will be out of a chiefs uniform. Notice most people differ on opinion on the ability of RB’s…this is no different…when it comes to witten…please…thats just insane…Gonzo is the best ever, and still is putting up league high numbers.
June 9th, 2008 at 1:39 pmAdam: has your slimey VD altered your brain. You keep posting stuff like Im taking credit for the team or that I play for the Team. I dont really know what your getting at.
Zach: If u wanna talk about he past then maybe we can talk about the 90’s.
XXXLP:No trash talking here just e telling you that the Cowboys are Better than the Chiefs im pretty sure thats a fact. And to keep bringing playoff losses up is a broken record, I believe you, were in the same boat. And yes i do give it to you fans but youll never convince me your teams better or that your a more loyal fan than I am to my team. Thats just how that one goes
P.S I have an ol Acer labtop ad my keys always jam so that is a big reason why my grammar is terrible I apolagize
June 9th, 2008 at 1:45 pmThe Dallas having a great line doesnt stick very well becasue Barber led the league in Broken tackles and most of that came from behind the line.And him making simthing out of nothing. You guys keep bringing up Barber Like I said he was the Best RB in the NFL. All im doing is defending the fact that he had a great year last year (pro bowl) And I belive he will have a even better year this year. Theres no reason why he shouldnt, hell still be in a dual back system but have more carries.
June 9th, 2008 at 1:54 pmGuys, Marion Barber’s keys always jam and that’s a big reason why he can’t rush for 1000 yards in a season. He “apolagizes”.
TDCowboys, admit defeat, take your ball, and go home. No one ever said the Chiefs have a better team than the Cowboys right now, but they’ve had the same production in the past decade and boast a superior TE and RB. You have the better QB and WR so just quit while your ahead and give up.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:04 pmyou’re*.
God dammit.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:05 pmHe didn’t even break 1,000 yards.. how could he have been the best RB in the league? Yes, he had a great year, and he has the POTENTIAL to be better than anyone in the league (truly amazing 2 yard run against the Patsies) but seriously.. And the fact that he led the league in broken tackles means about nothing.. Adrian Peterson would have done the same, but he was too busy running PAST the defenders than through them. If you’d like to see broken tackles, take a look at LT. Google LaDanian stiff arm highlights, and watch the art form that is his tackle-shedding machine for an arm. And if you want to praise Barber for his ‘making something out of nothing’ skill, then please take a peek at highlights from the Week 17 Cincinatti vs. Kansas City game, 2006. 200+ yards, and most of them are on his own. I’m not saying LJ is the best in the league, I’m saying he’s better than The Barbarian, AT THIS POINT IN TIME. LJ may break down and be useless, we don’t know this. Barber could have a breakout year and rush for 2,000 yards, we don’t know that either. We go by what has happened. And what has happened is, LJ had a couple monsters seasons, including one with only 9 starts, and still topped 1,000 yards, quite easily. If he does the same, or better, then yes, I’ll admit it, he officially would pass LJ as a beast, but until then.. LJ’s still better. I am growing weary of this debate though.. I suppose you could link it to a sort of ‘mental raping’.. It’s not fair when someone stronger (in this aspect, smarter) takes advantage of someone. So instead of continuing, I’ll leave you with a popular gaming reference, that you may or may not get, but that will make me chuckle. You’ve just been Pwned. Hard.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:09 pmATTENTION ALL CHIEF FANS
Seanbecool commited a grammar error!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As chiefs fans you pride yourselves on perfect spelling and Photoshop skills. Though now having one of you own misspell a word is crimial. I thought you guys were better than that.
No we have a better Team,Im serious, I wouldnt lie to you guys,
June 9th, 2008 at 2:17 pmXXXLP your doing it again. Your making stuff up and saying that I said stuff that you make up and add in just so you can type. My post above says “You guys keep bringing up Barber Like I said he was the Best RB in the NFL” And then you say
“We go by what has happened. And what has happened is, LJ had a couple monsters seasons, including one with only 9 starts, and still topped 1,000 yards, quite easily.” by XXXLP
Ok if we go by “what has happened” then you will see Barber had a Better year and went to the pro bowl. and L.J watched from the sidelines
June 9th, 2008 at 2:24 pmLJ’s impact 4-4(and top of the AFC west) with him and 0-8 afterwards. I don’t think that’d happen with the cowboys and marion… That’s what happens when great players get hurt, their team goes to shit. What would the chargers be like without LT? What would happen if the cowboys lost MG? NOthing, they’d still be playing in a weaker NFC and still win games..but we were actually in the playoff hunt with LJ carrying the load.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:36 pmI’m surprised you VD cow girls haven’t compared Willie Roaf to Flozell Adams…no contest….right? With this homerism I’m not sure what your answer would be..but the correct one is that Willie Roaf is one of the greatest LT’s to ever play the game.
Also, it’s an unfair assumption to compare TG’s first five years vs. Witten’s five years. When TG was in the league, the whole “pass catching TE” was a very new concept….however if you compare the last five years….then you’d have a more reliable indicator of “greatness” although stats are a horrible thing to base that off of as you can manipulate stats…but yes, even comparing TG to Jason Witten is an insult to Tony’s illustrious career with Kansas city. Perhaps here’s a question we should ask: Who will be a first ballot Hall of Famer? Not Jason Witten…
I didn’t say that he didn’t do better than LJ last year- he did. I’m sure there were games where Witten also did better than Gonzo. Over their careers, however, both TG and LJ have proved they are men among boys, whereas I would classify Witten and Barber as Teens among boys. They are good, but they aren’t quite at the status of where our guys are. You do have a better team. You keep bringing that up. No flaming on that part- you guys are better. We are rebuilding, and have alot of work to do before we a serious playoff contender then. We could possibly squeak in, but it’s unlikely. However- we still pwn you in the RB/TE catagory.
And a few grammatical errors in a post are usually typo’s, not actual errors. When you make 50-60 in one post, generally, it’s because of a lack of intelligence. So let’s not even try to bring that argument back, shall we not? Just admit that you’re both slightly less intelligent, and a little less grammatically inclined, say that your team is better than ours, but that our RB and TE have proven to be bigger stars up to this point, and let’s be done with this.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:38 pmL.J. had almost more yards in a nine-start season (just shy of 1,800) than Barber has for his entire career. This is just the weakest shit ever. Man, xxxlp, seanbcool and the crew are just handling you, VD.
This is what happens when you step to Chiefs fans, especially here at the Addict. It’s nothing personal, it’s just that we’re the best fans in the league and take pride in that shit. Now, go get a new keyboard for you and Marion.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:39 pmOMG, this has to be the worst commenter execution ever. Just quit.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:46 pmLOL Adam know the stats,and you havnt said one thing worth reading. I never said he was overall a better back than L.J. But a good RB/TE is all you have so im trying to have a debate based on those areas. XXXLP I dont wanna hear anything about intelligence when half your blogs are made up of your own speculation and distored facts. You think your the best fans cuse you stick with your team through Good or Bad,and you go to games. Well hate to burst your bubble but thats wht fans are supposed to do and thats what I do. What about true Lions Fans huh what are they? They dont even know what to win means, yet they stick to thier team every year. So let the fan thing go
June 9th, 2008 at 2:55 pmYou should listen to Adam fellas just quit.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:56 pmAre you ignorant, or suffer from an extra chromosomal malfunction, ie down syndrome? We post on here to share our thoughts, and debate topics. Correct? Yes, thought so. I do apologize, I didn’t start out arguing against you, rather, I was targeting MBIII’s, and TLH’s posts, and you just happened to comment. Most of what I say is for the trio of you in general, not just you. Don’t believe you’re that important, sorry, it’s not the case. Secondly, don’t insult my intelligence when your sentence that contains the jib at my intelligence has grammatical errors. That hurts yourself, not me. Just a friendly tip there. We are not great fans just because of the facts you stated; we are probably the most knowledgable fan base when it comes to football related topics, history of the game, and other teams. We have a deep rooted history in the NFL thanks to Lamar, may he R.I.P.
June 9th, 2008 at 3:12 pmThe only reason your fans could even be considered great is because of past contributions that helped coin them ‘America’s Team’, and as such, draws plenty of publicity, thereby drawing in more fans daily, that are just getting into football, and like to jump on the bandwagon. Where were all the Cowboys’ fans when you weren’t getting anywhere with Carter, Bledsoe, or the QB carousel that was going on? I didn’t hear many of you talking then, but now that you’ve got more pieces to the puzzle in place, you seem to think it’s your time to shine. Crawl out of the woodworks like the vermin you are, maybe hit a few books, I’d recommend English, or to put it more simply, grammar books, to you. In all seriousness, though; at least you have the nuts to post in here like this- when you are clearly outmatched, unlike a certain someone who went Cinderella and Peter Pan on us (with pictures of a very minor TV celebrity, and the king of rock to boot), but I won’t name any names. You’ve said it yourself you’ll give it to us that our fans our better. You also stated in post 52 that our running back and tight end are better than yours. You already said what I wanted you to admit- so really there’s no point in continuing communication with you. I did however find it mildly entertaining that someone who busted out ‘gay nerd’ as an attempt at an insult, thought he could match wits with a Chiefs fan, any Chiefs fan. Thanks for the laughs, now go and thank whatever God you believe in, that Strahan retired. Now all you have to worry about is Justin Tuck and Big Usi, Kiwanuka is also coming for ol’ Homo. So maybe that isn’t such a good thing after all? Hmm.
Adam is this what happens when you step into the Chiefs blog? You get a free spellcheck, You have five people argue about things you never said, and then say there the best fans in football when they get corrected? And you have photoshop battles.
For the record that pinocchio picture is one of the funniest things ive ever seen.
Now if you’ll exuse me I have to go buy a new labtop and hooked on phonics becasue you guys made me cry, here comes the tears..
June 9th, 2008 at 3:14 pmcrimial distored cuse wht?
I’m “horrificated” at your blatant rape of the English language and knowledge of football in general.
This pretty much says it all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLMHMhkdy2Q
June 9th, 2008 at 3:26 pmOne last thing before i go
June 9th, 2008 at 3:26 pmXXXLP dont worry i dont have “ie down syndrome”
And if you look at all my posts I never said MB3 was better than L.J and never said Witten is Better than TG. All I have been doing is comparing the four, and speaking my mind as a Dallas Fan. So you didnt get me to admit anything!!! And dont make assumptions that im one of those Cowboys fans you speak off cuse I wouldnt be here blogging with you all day if I wasnt passionate an educated on the team(but not spelling i know) And to say your the most knowledgable fans is a little far fetched, no doubt you know yor stuff but earlier you told me Carson Palmer is better than Romo? cmon man you guys are all about the stats right? So look at them.
Other than that I had fun Arguing with yall today.
And if that’s not quite enough:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zpNw2-RGKM
“What was your name again, son?”
“My name is TDCowb-”
“It doesn’t matter what your name is!!!”
June 9th, 2008 at 3:33 pmGood one scott you got me, did you thnk of that one all day while you were searching for youtube videos.
June 9th, 2008 at 3:34 pmAnyhow im impressed.
Heres the Chiefs in two numbers 4-12
Ooh. Hold up. We ain’t done yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9so9xBEvU3Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRcy7kWfrC4
June 9th, 2008 at 3:39 pmI could do this all day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy4eDJgIvKc
June 9th, 2008 at 3:45 pmAnd again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr1-zujv5hw
June 9th, 2008 at 3:46 pmWhat happened? Where are the ‘boys fans?
In the words of the immortal Bob Barker:
“You’ve had enough. No. Now you’ve had enough…bitch.”
June 9th, 2008 at 3:58 pmIt was fun- I didn’t mind bashing you as much as I thought I would.. and yes, down syndrome is caused by a chromosomal malfunction, where an extra chromosome 21 is added, resulting in 3 (where the general public has 2.) Now, back to schooling you on Carson Palmer.. I’ll make it easy for you, and post their totals for the past 2 years, since that’s when Romo began to play QB, but keep in mind Carson and Tony were both drafted the same year, and neither played in 2003.
Carson Palmer over the last 2 years:
8166 yards, 54 touchdowns, 33 interceptions.
Tony Romo over the last 2 years:
7114 yards, 55 touchdowns, 32 interceptions.
Fairly even, with Carson throwing one less touchdown and one more pick, but having over 1,000 more yards under his belt. And don’t give me the ‘Tony didn’t start the whole year!’ shtick, it’s not Carson’s fault he was good enough to play before Romo was. If Tony was that good, then immobile Drew Bledsoe would have been unseated much earlier. Remember how I said Carson and Tony came to the NFL in the same year? Yeah.. so those are Tony’s career stats, and I’ll just reiterate the point by posting them again, so you get a clear picture of the distinction between Carson and Tony, VD.
Tony Romo’s career stats:
7114 yards, 55 touchdowns, 32 interceptions.
Carson Palmer’s career stats:
14,899 yards, 104 touchdowns, 63 interceptions.
For the last two years, it’s a coin toss. Over a career, Carson is better. Care to still claim that Tony Romo is better? Please do- it would make my day.
June 9th, 2008 at 4:03 pmAll I have to say is that I love you Addicts! I couldn’t be more proud of our readership. The Cowboys have tapped out
TD – thanks for the Pinocchio compliment. I knew you liked it, but I actually liked my Homer Simpson of Dan better. TD thanks for being a sport… Good luck with the season and we will make sure to check in with you when Tony Homo screws up again and TO cries about his QB.
June 9th, 2008 at 4:19 pmJune 9th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
No hard feelings, VD, er, TD!
June 9th, 2008 at 4:23 pmYea thanks for telling me what I already knew , And yea I will bring up that Romo didnt play the extra 6 games. And I will bring up that Romo has a little more than half Palmers stats in only 26 games compared to what Carson Palmers done in 61 games. Romo bitch slapped Palmers numbers last year, So xxxlp remember your quote “We go by what has happened”. So yes I will say that Romo is better the Palmer. Does being wrong make your day?
June 9th, 2008 at 4:25 pmStill, that’s 8 more seconds than we deserve. Well, other than Pollard’s scrippa dance. We still have the best fans, VD. STILL!
June 9th, 2008 at 4:26 pmAdam no hard feeling and you should really get that slimey STD you contracted checked out. And Zach first off you know the Giants game wasnt Romo’s fault but if your gonna be one of the greats you gotta beat all the odds, He can do it in the regular season we just need him to do it in the playoffs. The next time you see T.O cry its gonna be tears of joy while raising the Lombardi Trophy.
June 9th, 2008 at 4:31 pmYeah well those.. erm.. “Hats” seem to be good fans too. It’s not their fault they don’t a leg to stand on.
I think this whole experience has brought everyone here closer :p
June 9th, 2008 at 4:32 pmVD, did I say it was? I was referring to the game when he cost you 2 years ago. I know you guys blame Jessica Simpson for this years problems. Fumbling as a placeholder had to be one of the most embarrassing things anyone can ever experience. So now you can at least say that you and Tony have something in common.
BTW, Chiefs fans if we suck this year (which we are rebuilding so it could easily happen) lets blame it on Kelli Croyle or October Gonzalez. The girlfriend or wife is always the reason why guys can’t win the big game
I hope TO does cry again because it is YouTube gold. Like I said I will be watching the Cowboys a little closer this year…
June 9th, 2008 at 4:57 pmOh, snap!
June 9th, 2008 at 5:00 pmZach
June 9th, 2008 at 5:35 pmDid I say that you said it was his fault?, No i did not, I was just throwing that out there. Im not XXXLP I don’t put imaginary words In your sentences.
Iv never fumbled as a placeholder. So I don’t get the attempt to be funny right there. But you wanna here something that is Funny… 4-12 GO CHIEFS
OH SNAP!
Sources: Owens placed in ‘reasonable cause’ testing program
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3433973
Uh-oh, is someone cheating?????
June 9th, 2008 at 5:36 pmI was talking about how you two could share embarrassment…
Now go worry about TO getting caught cheating.
June 9th, 2008 at 5:50 pmJune 9th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Don’t forget about this Cowboy
June 9th, 2008 at 6:05 pm“weiner-sucker scumbags”
Did you ever look at that guys YouTube page? He is a self-proclaimed swinger that has YouTubes of strip clubs, LMAO!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/user/rickryansworld2
June 9th, 2008 at 6:19 pmsorry to be off subject, but any news on brandon albert’s ankle?
June 9th, 2008 at 6:43 pmhow about them cornerbacks?
as an eagle fan I’d like to say first I do hate dallas but this arguement is senseless just like you inbred douchebags in kansas city…the chiefs are GARBAGE…if you wanna compare running backs let’s not compare barber and LJ lets compare LJ and westbrook…let me take that back cause u can’t compare the two b/c westbrook is superior…and by the way gonzalez is also GARBAGE while were at it…I think you chief fans need to get your heads out your asses…E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!!!!!
June 9th, 2008 at 6:47 pm“you gotta understand were used to arguing with skins,eagles,and Giants fans, it always turns into whos team has the most crimnals, or Which QB is gay, or who has the hottest girlfrend on the team. And then shortly followed by death threats and suicides”
you made this youtube vid for them didn’t you?
June 9th, 2008 at 6:56 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTosQerWBzU
June 9th, 2008 at 6:57 pmWoah there cowboy, (rofl) how do you figure Romo bitch slapped Palmer’s numbers last year? They both threw for over 4,000 yards. That’s not exactly bitch slapping… Bitch slapping is what occurs when a single lonely Cowboys fan, starved for attention, comes a-waltzin’ into the AA forum. And as you gleefully think you have me caught in my own logic problem… “So xxxlp remember your quote “We go by what has happened”.” Right.. we go by what has happened- and during both of these men’s careers, (that started during the same year, and both have also sat out at least one season, and both have played through injuries, so let’s not hear your sorry excuses any more..) Carson has over twice the yards thrown (14,889 to 7,114), a bit shy of twice the number of touchdowns (104 to 55) and just south of twice the number of picks (63 to 32.) Please explain to me how I’m wrong that Palmer is better? Because *boohoo* Tony didn’t start as early as he did? That’s not our problem, that’s his. As mobile as Tony the Homo Romo is, and he can’t beat out the statue formerly known as Bledsoe? That’s on him and noone else. Palmer was good enough to start. And start he did. While Tony was holding place kicks for a living, Palmer was chuckin TD’s. In 3 years, if Romo is ahead of Palmer in any catagory, then I’ll give you a pat on the back, shake your hand, look you in the eye and tell you I was wrong. Until then, grow a pair.. of frontal lobes that is. In case that one managed to slip past the well-oiled machine that is your mind, I’m talking about a brain. Been pwned much? You just have.
June 9th, 2008 at 6:58 pmWell I can honestly say that the Cowboys fans look like geniuses compared to this Eagle fan.
“Gonzalez is also garbage”
That is like calling Jerry Rice, Barry Sanders, John Elway, LT (the first and second one) garbage. Get lost you idiot and let us keep this between Cowboys and Chiefs. We know you guys are still crying about TO…
June 9th, 2008 at 7:25 pmPhillybird-
I hope that the cheese-whiz is so hot in your next cheese steak sandwich that melts your face off and McNaab breaks both his fucking ankles in the season opener. All of yas…can line up with your Harold Carmichael jerseys, and one at a time you can all suck my d*%$ !
City of Brotherly Love. What a bunch of garbage.
You guys haven’t won a SuperBowl since they invented facemasks! Joe Frazier is from Philly but since you guys are so racist you can’t tolerate that shit; So yo build a statue of Rocky a fictional character…a 3 foot white midget. What about your faggy baseball team named after a female horse…the Phillies…you’ve won one World Series since 1880 in your red candy-striped uniforms-your team should be selling cotton candy at the circus not playing baseball. Maybe if you bring Tug McGraw back from the dead maybe win another one.
And most of all, fuck you for booing Santa.
June 9th, 2008 at 8:22 pmZach- that dude’s youtube is nuts, did you see the bottom comment? It said you look 100 years old and I bet you smell like it too.
June 9th, 2008 at 8:31 pmHat tip to Bill Burr btw
you know what i just thought of cowboys fans!!! Brodie Croyle is going to be a better NFL QB than Tony Romo!! yippy! ok now heres how i know….
Romo’s 1st 2 NFL seasons were in 2003 and 2004, his stats went like this… 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0%
OK brodie’s 1st two season were like this….
he had 6 touchdowns, and 8 interceptions, with a QB rating of 65!! yay this is proof that Brodie will become better than Romo!!
ok….so now do you guys see how stupid you look when you compare Tony Gonzalez to Jason Witten?
June 9th, 2008 at 10:07 pmXXXLP
When I say bitch slap I mean Romo threw for 10 more touchdowns and beat Palmer in every category and Rushed for a pair of touchdowns. So why dont you get both thier stats in brail and maybe you might be able to tell the difference.
Palmer has played more games of course he has more stats but that doesnt make him better than Romo. Infact Romo went from a placekicker to being one of the top 3 QB’s in the NFL NOW. So that says alot for Palmer, he and everyone except Brady, Manning, and Farve got Worked by a former Placekicker.
June 9th, 2008 at 10:51 pmHolder for a Place Kicker*
June 9th, 2008 at 10:56 pmYour still here?
June 9th, 2008 at 11:20 pm“I was targeting MBIII’s, and TLH’s posts, and you just happened to comment.”
I haven’t even posted on here yet. Must be lookin over your shoulder, scared.
“Right.. we go by what has happened- and during both of these men’s careers, (that started during the same year, and both have also sat out at least one season, and both have played through injuries, so let’s not hear your sorry excuses any more..) Carson has over twice the yards thrown (14,889 to 7,114), a bit shy of twice the number of touchdowns (104 to 55) and just south of twice the number of picks (63 to 32.)”
I think that Parcells was right for holding Romo out of starting for as long as he did. The learning curve in the NFL is just slightly steeper coming from Eastern Illinois than it is from USC.
You’re great at omitting stats, xxxlp, but this one is unforgivable.
QB RATINGS:
Romo: 96.5
Palmer: 90.1
That really felt good, because I know you went through and looked at all the stats for both players and compiled them to make your case, and I bet you even felt a swell of pride as you dared us to claim that Tony Romo was better than Carson Palmer.
And last year, you failed to realize that Tony threw 10 more touchdowns than Palmer. That’s a bitch slapping. You’ve gone up against me a few times now, so you should be familiar with how it feels.
I’m sticking to my guns on the other stuff. I just wanted to make xxxlp feel inadequate.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:41 pmDoes TLH have any stats on just what TO injected into himself that got the NFL to take a closer look at him? Oh, I’m just kidding. I miss phone calls all the time, too.
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/06/09/terrell-owens-has-never-failed-a-drug-test-but-nfl-may-start-te/
-cw
June 10th, 2008 at 12:33 amDefinitely one of the most entertaining comment threads we’ve ever had.
I’ve gotta say something to that Eagles scumbag who stuck his head in this argument, though. First off, Westbrook is about as brittle as they come. Second off, at least our coach doesn’t have sons that hide drugs up their ass and are more like Sammy “The Bull” Gravano than him. Oh, and Philly is a dump. I can smell that mixture of pollution, B.O. and stale cheesesteaks from Austin, baby!
Get it out (I’m doing the Mutumbo finger wag)! Even though I think Crane already rejected that weak shit long before I did.
June 10th, 2008 at 2:11 amgod I hate texas and anything that has to do with that god forsaken state…..fuckin cock mongrols
June 10th, 2008 at 3:26 amQB Ratings From NFL.com
Romo 97.4
June 10th, 2008 at 9:57 amPalmer 86.7
I actually have to agree that Tony Romo is a little better than Carson Palmer. He’s more physically gifted, and I’d take Tony on my team before Carson.
That being said, Eagles fans are the most vile, disgusting, piece of shit fans in the country. They’re probably even worse than Raiders fans, and that’s saying a lot. And they don’t even have anything to brag about except a quarterback that only plays half seasons because he constantly tears his ACL or breaks his toe or accidentally gets his dick ripped off by Jevon Kearse in a giant sucking orgy. Why do you think they traded Kearse?
And don’t even get me started on the Phillies. The Royals may be the worst team in baseball but at least they’ve actually BEEN good before.
June 10th, 2008 at 12:32 pmSadly mistaken MBIIIeffect… Sadly mistaken. Are you here because VD passed along that since yesterday I was handing out mental rapings for free? The QB rating, while showing a nice picture of how they’ve done, is quite useless as far as stats go. You can see from the yards, td’s, and picks, pretty much what their rating will look like. Ratings mean about as much as points on Whose Line is it Anyway? Tom Brady has recorded an under 90 QB rating 4 times in his career (in seasons which he started at least 15 games), and yet, I don’t think we argue that he is one of the top two quarterbacks in the game today.. I didn’t post the attempts/completions, or the completion percentage, also, because I felt like VD would be unable to comprehend the numbers
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Looking over my shoulder, scared? I do believe that I’ve posted on the Cowgirls site a few times, no? And the last post, The Landry Hat and the Epic Homerism. To reiterate… I’m not just speaking to you, I’m also speaking to TLH (the very first few posts I did were mainly to him.) and also VD for the most part. As you’ve said, we’ve done this a few times, and I know you’re not that ignorant..
So MBIII, what’s your opinion on the Palmer/Romo thing? Who is better, at this point in time? Go ahead and make my day. To make it clear, I was speaking of their careers, who has done better? And since you want to add alot of the stats, not just the ‘major three’, then here goes..
So here’s your wanted stats.. (Carson’s numbers will be first, obviously, they are much higher than Romo’s, you’ll be able to tell the difference naturally, but wanted to point that out.)
Completions: 1305, 555.
Attempts: 2036, 857.
Completion Percentage: 64.1, 64.8.
Yards Thrown: 14,899 , 7114.
Average Yards Per Throw: 7.3, 8.3.
Touchdowns: 104, 55.
Interceptions: 63, 32.
Sacks: 97, 45.
Sack Yards Lost: 635, 300.
Quarterback Rating: 90.1, 96.5.
Rushing Attempts: 102, 67.
Rushing Yards: 135, 229.
Rushing Average: 1.3, 3.4.
Rushing Touchdowns: 2, 2.
Fumbles: 27, 19.
Fumbles Lost: 12, 5.
I’ve looked up injury histories for both players- and all I could find was a ’sore thumb’ for Tony Romo, and for Carson Palmer, torn anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments, along with a dislocated knee-cap. To come off that injury and throw for 4,000+ yards 2 years in a row.. When most quarterbacks don’t hit 4,000 period. Impressive.
In 1st, 2nd, or 3rd goal, Carson is money. Throwing for 13 touchdowns, with 0 interceptions, 1 sack, and 0 fumbles. Tony Romo has 13 touchdowns with 2 interceptions, 2 sacks, and 2 fumbles.
I could grab some more stats, but I feel that is efficient enough, at least for now. As I said before- and obviously you guys can’t get.. Tony Romo isn’t that bad of a player. He’s just not as proven as a guy like Carson Palmer. He’s on pace to put up numbers almost exactly like Carson’s, so I’m not saying he’s bad. Where exactly is this ‘bitch slapping’ I was promised?
Romo has been inconsistent (who isn’t in their first couple years of starting?) and has only been starting half the time that Palmer has already played. Romo one day could be better than Palmer, but seeing as how they came into this league at the same time, and the fact that Carson has 2 years of playing time ahead of Romo.. Assuming they leave at around the same time, and have comparitive stats based on what they’ve already done, Carson will always have better stats than Romo. Anything can happen, it’s the NFL way, but the only thing we can assume is that for the next 4-5 years at least, barring major injuries, they’re both going to be good/great QB’s. The argument that Romo is better than Palmer at this juncture though, is idiotic, to say the least. You (MBIII, seeing as how VD can’t understand numbers) should look up the situational stats for both players though, pretty interesting stuff.
June 10th, 2008 at 12:52 pmAlmost platinum on this one…
June 10th, 2008 at 1:03 pm100th post!
Wow. I didn’t think we would hit 100 posts till the 08′ season started.
June 10th, 2008 at 2:06 pmthat fuckin guy looks like a drunk ass gomer pyle, lol, anyways, we’ll see how this season goes and ill bet the chiefs do better than the faggots from philly and the queers from dallas..GO CHIEFS
June 10th, 2008 at 2:28 pmInstant classic
June 10th, 2008 at 6:39 pmThat’s all I am gonna say LOL
xxxlp
June 10th, 2008 at 7:52 pmgive it up your wrong you just wasted everyones time by having us read that useless post. So stop writing books no one wants to read. Even your fellow chief fan seanbcool agrees that Romo is the better quarterback. Seriously, everyone would take Romo now over Palmer.
Sure, because him throwing for over twice as many yards, and 49 more touchdowns, makes him a worse quarterback, right? Explain please. There, nice and simple post, since obviously you had trouble reading my last one, with actual facts, since you say I like to make up things… Just go back to the Cowgirls site and be happy that you have Romo.
P.S. Keep your fingers crossed for that Romo/Simpson duet album, it’ll be priceless. The next ‘William Hung’ style album.. I smell a hit baby!
June 10th, 2008 at 8:48 pmXXXlp
Palmer has more stats becasue he has played longer, you dont need to show me stats to prove that. Romo is a better quarterback Now. This is my point and has always been. You wrong, Palmer is not better than Romo becasue he has mediocre stats from previous Years. Becasue thats all your saying.
June 11th, 2008 at 7:11 amPalmer has just over twice the amount of playing time, with just over twice the amount of stats.. If you’re going to say that his numbers are mediocre, then please lump in Romo in that category. As I’ve also stated before- they are the same age, and came into the NFL the same year. It’s not Carson’s fault he was good enough that he started playing before Romo did. It’s the same as the Gonzalez/Witten argument, they’re both good now, but to compare the two is insane, because one’s done it more consistently or better throughout his career, than the other. By the way, I’d like you to explain how 4,000 yards two years in a row is ‘mediocre’, especially since your beloved Romo has not accomplished that feat yet, nor has he gone through a blowout of his knee. Please explain it? And also, you failed to mention where the bitchslap was I was promised.. Coincidence? No. Run along back to the Cowgirls site. This thread is over.
June 11th, 2008 at 5:51 pmXXXLP
you can try to sound smart all you want. You can try to prove your point all you want. But that wont help you considering that everyone in there right mind would pick Romo over Palmer. So give it up!
June 11th, 2008 at 9:14 pmWhy dont you try to think of another argument i can bitch slap you in. But considering you dont think a Qb rating of 96.4 to Palmers 86.7 plus throwing for 10 more TD’s is a Bitch slapping then you should seriously go to a doctor.
And again I have to remind you that I didnt say witten was Better than Gonzalez. And to be such a Homer to say they shouldnt even be compared is retarded. TG has MORE stats but even Gonzalex would tell you that Witten is up and coming and theres nothing you can do about that my friend.
Man, even most cats would be dead by now. You won’t die, will you? Just kidding, VD, comment over here as much as you want!
June 11th, 2008 at 9:19 pmThxz Adam.
But xxlp witten but up the same stats actually a lil better with T.O on the opposite side, gobbling up over 1300 yards an 81 receptions and 15 Td’s
So either you gotta admit Wittens good or Romos good there no way around it.
P.S dont even post Bowes stats cuse i know them, and there no T.O stats, I mean even Crayton had more Td receptions then Bowe, so dont embarass yourself.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:23 pmput* apologize for horrible grammar
June 11th, 2008 at 9:35 pmNOBODY HERE EVER SAID WITTEN ISN’T GOOD. Everyone knows he’s good. He just can’t lick Gonzo’s boots.
As far as Romo goes, I personally think he’s the next Brett Favre, but give him a few years before anointing him.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:54 pmIm not anointing him, but he’s better than Palmer. And I know you all agree Witten is good, When I said good I was refering to the comparing argument..
June 12th, 2008 at 7:01 amC’mon not good enough to lick TG’s boots? Thats a little far.
No it’s not far. It’s like comparing Marion Barber to Emmitt Smith or TO to Jerry Rice.
June 12th, 2008 at 1:24 pm