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how many superbowls did al saunders win for us?
how many for other teams as offensive coord.?
martz won one but thats it.
how many has chan been in on?
also the pats last year called basically the same play over and over still it worked.
what about a couple of years ago pittsburg did you see them play at all? sometimes they would run right at you but couldnt be stopped.
how many times did priest get that sweep and be gone? do you not think teams were expecting that?
what im gettin at is this great execution will beat a defense because they STILL dont know EXACTLY whats goin down. even with a good idea, if the offense executes they should win. also a couple of years the high school team in my town made the state final and only had about 10 plays (8 of wich were runs)

One good bit of news I heard is that Croyle will be able to change the play at the line of scrimmage.

Call me crazy but I'm starting to have a very positive feeling about this team. I believe most fans will be pleased by what they see.

The '98 Colts went 3-13 behind a QB who had 26 TDs, 28 Ints, got sacked 22 times and achieved an overall passer rating of 71. The next year the same QB threw 26 TDs, 15 Ints, got sacked 14 times and had an overall passer rating of almost 91 and the team went 13-3. It's cliche but it's true - things can & do change quickly in the NFL from one season to the next. I would not be quick to assume that that can't also hold true for the 2008 Chiefs.

The teams that are predictably bad are that way because of who is at the top. Sure the Chiefs have had their ups and downs, and we all hate King Carl, but on the whole I think you have to admit that they are as solid of an organization as you will find and just because they have one bad season in no way guarantees that they won't be competitive sooner rather than later.

Everything I hear about this offseason tells me that Edwards, Cunningham, and Gailey are all on the same page about their vision for this team. To me, it sounds a lot like old school, Lombardi-style - in other words, "we don't care if you know what play we're calling because you won't be able to stop us even if you tried." Very physical. We've always known that was Gun's M.O. - now we're seeing it for perhaps the first time on the other side of the ball. I'd love to see it pulled off.

Seriously, you have to give these guys (including the coaches) a chance to do and learn what they need to, a chance for them to find their identity and then prove it (or not) on the field before you start judging them and assuming the worst.

I have every confidence that both sides of the line will be stronger and play better than what we saw last year. With LJ back in the line-up, a blocking FB, a big blocking TE, an improved line that not only opens seams but also gives Brodie the extra second or two he needs to get the ball downfield (to a true #2 receiver?), then who's to say this offense can't become damn dangerous, damn quick?

OK first of all, some of you should probably chill out a little bit. I was joking. I actually kind of like the idea of a simplified offense in some ways.

Second, the reason I question how complicated the new offense is is that there are reasons NFL offenses are complicated. Depth and versatility, namely. Names of plays aren't complex just to be confusing and sound cool. They describe intricate details of a play, and allow for subtle changes.

As much as I think simplifying things is a good idea when adjusting to a drastically younger team, I am genuinely concerned about the depth of our offense. Simplify an offense too much, and there's really only so much you can do with it.

On another note, one word plays present another kind of problem. Remembering a different word for each play? Sounds kind of tough. At least in traditional offenses, different words mean different things rather than one word signifying routes, blocking, etc. It seems to me that the playbook would have to be relatively small to make this work, and small playbooks don't have much of a place in the NFL.

I'm not pretending to know how things are gonna work though. I just have a lot of questions about it.

As far as calling the same play 3 times in a series, I guarantee you that cannot work in the NFL. That barely works in high school. NFL defenses are way smarter than that, and Herm Edwards saying that "they'll know where we're gonna go, we'll go there, and still be successful because of good execution" doesn't really jive.

p.s. @ComeSackMyQB: try English next time.

I don't understand how anyone can judge the "play-names" or try to predict the outcome of the revised system.
We have to accept that Herm is the coach and Carl is here.

The only givens are last year's record and results.
That got us 4-12... why not dumb it down a little bit, especially since we have a lot of Young players.
If they're confident, they'll play harder/better.
If they're confused... well, just look at last year's results.

Worst case scenario is that we repeat last years performance and the management/authority positions get "re-built." Wait and see. I hope we get Marty as GM and Bill Cowher comes back (he can't sit out more than 2 years) and coaches us.

what they name a play makes no difference, its whether the play works and if everybody knows their role in the play, who gices a shit if they call it my little pony if it gets us yards. boy coach, i know we won the game and all but i didnt really like goin out and saying pony, i dont know about the rest of you but some of this shit really sounds stupid, boy our offense is gonna suck because of the names of our plays...who gives a shit, id go out and say, take a crap right on 2 if it got us 10 and your a chiefs fan huh, take it where you can get it

By the way...

I'll take Pony, Colt, or even midget anyday over "Crosshair Red 52 Dildo..."

-Just sayin...

I will agree to have some concern regarding Chan Gailey, let alone ANY new offensive coordinator.

The big PLUS is that anyone will be a huge upgrade over Mike Solari. He was an amazing O-line coach, but the transition to Offensive coordinator is NOT something anyone can do on the fly, and the last 2 years proved that.

I don't mind Gailey using the same plays in the game, heck, even a couple times in a drive if they are destroying an opposing defense or are our bread and butter plays. However, I do worry about the fine line of being good the first few games offensively, and then when game footage is analyzed by future opponents they can scheme to completely shut us down.

I guess we really won't be able to tell how good Mr. Gailey is until we are able to see if he can prepare specific gameplans to exploit opposing teams, and even more importantly GAME TIME ADJUSTMENTS with emphasis on the 2nd half of games.

As long as Herm just sticks to helping the Defense, and drafting and lets Chan do his thing I will be happy...

As far as new guys learning the system, maybe it will help that the offense is supposed to be really simple, and when I say simple I mean REALLY FUCKING DUMBED DOWN.

Now I know Chan Gailey is supposed to be a pretty kickass offensive coordinator, but what I've read still worries me a little bit. In an Al Saunders or Mike Martz type offense, the same play would never be called twice in one game. Hell, probably not twice in a month. And that's kind of how I expect successful NFL offenses to be. From what I've read from official sources, in the new offense Chan Gailey is installing in KC the same play might be called 3 times in the same series. Yeah.

It's also apparently a pretty simple system. Like, mind-numbingly simple. Colt. Pony. Dragon. These are the names of entire plays.

Quarterbacks usually seem pretty badass when they trot up to a huddle and command the silent respect and attention of their teammates. The rest offense knows they need to listen up. This means business.

"Crosshair Red 52 Dildo X Fly 40 Right Smokey Blue Jukebox Ditch on 3!" the quarterback shouts in a clear manly voice. The offense breaks the huddle and lines up, confident in their next plan of attack.

Now imagine our system.

Brodie prances to the huddle.

"Pony!" he yells as Dwayne Bowe puts rabbit ears on him and the rest of the offense snickers.

LJ gets stuffed for -6 yards.

I'm not hating or anything, I'm just a concerned fan. But perhaps it will be better for all these young guys to come into a simplified system. Maybe they'll be able to focus on "playing football" instead of "thinking".