Yeah.

I can’t stand the Patriots & you can and this conversation has gotten beyond stupid so I say if only for the other reader’s sake we call it a truce and just move on.

Bill Belichick, New England Patriots
Tom Coughlin, New York Giants
Sean Payton, New Orleans Saints
Romeo Crennel, Cleveland Browns
Eric Mangini, New York Jets
Tony Sparano, Miami Dolphins
Al Groh, University of Virginia
Charlie Weis, University of Notre Dame

(there are others, and offshoots like Nick Saban who worked for Belichick in Cleveland). I’m not making blanket accusations here, but it seems like the ‘big three’ who turned the competitive advantage of taping signals into HUGE paydays are first and foremost Charlie Weiss, then Romeo Crennel, and Eric Mangini (who absolutely knew what was happening and is the one who eventually squawked on Belichick).

Perhaps the reason the NFL wants this to go away isn’t so much that it’s SO widespread among EVERY team, but that it’s so widespread amongst these disciples of Bill Parcells who is still a LUMINARY figure in the sport. I’m very surprised never to find this even hinted at in the media – and I suppose it’s because Parcells is such a sacred cow.

How hard is it to believe that Belichick wasn’t the innovator of this system? How hard is it to believe that other coaches (people like Herm Edwards, Tony Dungy and Mike Martz) refuse to really put the dagger in when talking about the scandal, because there’s not only a code amongst these guys – but that few people want to be the ones who bring down living legends… ?

The Royals are still my favorite baseball team for god’s sake, and their big accomplishment last season was that they didn’t lose 100 games.

I’m simply not closed minded enough to think that I can only cheer for one team.

(And about the insults, comment number 45 was pure insult and instigation. Pretty childish if you ask me.)

Also your point about me insulting you is bogus. What I said was that anybody who supports the Patriots can kiss my ass. Your choice to do so is on you. Moreover, I do believe you’re the one who responded by suggesting I remove my head from my ass. What you said to me sure sounds a lot more like a direct personal insult than the public offer I proposed.

Last point and then I’m done. I’m a Chiefs fan no matter how bad the weather is. I don’t get that same vibe from you.

Yet Spygate mania continues…

I’m done helping you screw this topic up, so like I said, just talk to me in January.

Oh, and you might want to check out the latest New York Times interview with Matt Walsh. Apparently NEw England isn’t the only team that cheats (surprise!)

The truth I know is that NFL is extremeful powerful, will do whatever they need to do to protect their image, will show the world what they want it to see, and cover up the really bad stuff. I consider accepting the NFL’s official propaganda about spygate to be naive. In any event, I am totally okay with letting it go because in spite of the bad stuff I really enjoy the overall experience that the NFL produces.

Back to the original point – what was intended by me as part humor / part slam about the Patsies obviously struck a nerve with you. I can’t help that and won’t apologize for attacking your loyalty to a team that I don’t care much for. I believe Herm Edwards is somebody who respects rules and that Bill Bellichek is somebody who does not and that has a lot to do with my opinion of the quality and character of each and the teams they respectively coach. Why anybody not from Southie would choose to defend him or his team is beyond me.

And just so you know, I’ve been following the CHIEFS and pro football since the days when the only bar-b-q one would smell around a CHIEFS stadium on game day was that which was being churned out down the street at a place called Arthur Bryants. Point is I don’t need any lectures or knowledge tests about this sport from you or anybody else.

You can have your Tom Brady man crush and love up on the Patriots all you want but as far I’m concerned the only conceivable good thing about Boston is the possibility that some CHIEFS fan might have the misfortune of being stuck there.

Now more than ever I can’t wait to watch the CHIEFS crush them.

All the haters are going to be sucking at the teet come reg season. Keep hating. It just adds fuel to the fire that lies within a very misunderstood but outstanding football player.

First of all, I’d like to express my appreciation for you presenting logical discussion and opinions in a reasonable manner. It’s refreshing.

Now –

Yes the Pats cheated. It was unfair and WRONG. However, I do not the believe recording defensive signals can affect the outcomes of the games all that much. Even though it does possibly grant unfair advantages, consider the following:

- All the videos I saw were of game footage (and the Pats were caught recording DURING A GAME). NFL teams change their signals every week. Hell, for Super Bowl XLI the Bears changed theirs at halftime.
- Players can and have figured out opponents signals, (again: Jake Delhomme against the Giants) so it’s not like taping would open some previously unattainable holy grail or something. Like I said earlier: this is over-predaredness to a fault. To the point of breaking the rules.

I really just think the whole thing has been blown out of proportion. They deserved to be punished, and were punished severely. At unprecedented levels. Why can’t people just let it go now?

As far as the Giants’ Super Bowl victory.. Yes, the Giants played their hearts out. They dominated throughout the playoffs and beat the Patriots fair and square. Congratulations to them. But I still maintain that the Patriots were the better team. 9/10 times it would have gone the other way. That’s all I’m saying.

No team will EVER take the place of the Chiefs for me. I’m part of the Red Seas until the day I die. But that doesn’t mean I can’t root for other teams too. I pull for the Packers and the Steelers too, if they aren’t playing the Chiefs. I pull for the Vikings right now because I like them as a team, and they are on the cusp of being something special. The same goes for the Cowboys.

And yes, I pull for the Patriots. They are the first dynasty I personally witnessed as a follower of the NFL, the “America’s Team” of my time, and that means something to me. They also play with more energy and heart than any team I have ever watched. And they play for eachother. It’s a team mentality in New England.

I know I can’t convince anyone here at this point, so just talk to me in January after they’ve dominated yet again, and then say their success is due to recording some defensive signals.

Oh yeah.. GO CHIEFS (and Fuck those greasy thugs in Oakland).