Jared Still In Minny
Update 12:35 AM CST: The Daily Norseman is reporting that Jared Allen has left Minnesota without a contract, due to an NFL rule that limits free agent visits to 48 hours. Negotiations will continue long distance, but Jared will visit the Tampa Bay Buccaneers early next week.
Likely soon-to-be ex-Chiefs star Jared Allen is still in Minnesota negotiating with the Vikings. Tonight from the Star Tribune:
Jared Allen continued his visit with the Vikings on Saturday afternoon at Winter Park as the team worked both to reach an agreement on a multiyear contract with the Pro Bowl defensive end as well as a trade that would send draft picks to the Kansas City Chiefs…
The Vikings have offered Kansas City their first-round pick (No. 17 overall) in next weekend’s NFL draft as well as one of their two third-round selections. Those picks fall at No. 73 and No. 82 overall, with the first one having been acquired in a trade last year with the Denver Broncos.
Carl Peterson, who serves as Chiefs president, chief executive officer and general manager, is known in league circles as an extremely tough negotiator and could be looking for a better compensation package.
The rebuilding Chiefs, coming off a 4-12 season, would have five of the first 73 picks in the draft if they obtained the Vikings’ top pick as well as their first selection in round three. The Buccaneers reportedly are willing to part with their first-round pick, but that might not be as attractive to the Chiefs because it comes three picks after the Vikings’ selection.
We’ll keep you posted!
I’ve let this news set in for awhile now, and to tell you the truth. I’m fine with it. Yeah Allen is good, maybe great, but he was gone at the end of this year. I don’t think anyone would have talked him into staying and signing a multi year deal. Now we can stock pile picks. If we can have a draft similar to the last couple, we will be back in contention in a year or two.
April 19th, 2008 at 7:50 pmThere is no way I take just a first and one third. No way.
April 19th, 2008 at 7:54 pmYeah… I say we take their 1 round pick, their 2nd round pick and next years 3rd round pick. Or Steve Hutchinson. Hahahaha!
April 19th, 2008 at 8:17 pmWhat value do you think the Chiefs can realistically get for Allen? 1st rounder?
April 19th, 2008 at 11:07 pmIt was just confirmed…. Vikes/ ANY TEAM can sign JA after the draft and keep their 1st round 2008 draft pick and only give up thier 2009 and 2010 1st round.
Carl is an IDIOT!!!!
If the Pats sign JA the 2 1st round picks are basically high 2nd round picks since they will be drafting at tail end of 1st round for years to come.
This incompetence could lead to CLASS ACTION lawsuit by fans. A joke but I am not laughing at placing a non-exclusive franchise tag on the franchise player.
April 19th, 2008 at 11:10 pmallens worth multiple picks…period
April 19th, 2008 at 11:11 pmCZAR keep your pants on…use your head and not the one between your legs…the chiefs can match any offer and then allen is ours plain and simple…it was a good move. He has to go by the contract that was submitted…..so please try to let your emotions about Peterson subside enough so you use your big head about this…
Peterson maybe a lot of things but he is not dumb…
April 19th, 2008 at 11:53 pmFYI, Jason Taylor is supposedly going to get traded for a 2nd round pick.
Does that hurt Jared’s stock or help?
April 20th, 2008 at 12:49 amBefore this JA business, I was ready to post a blue print. But after all this, I just can’t bring myself to do it. All bets are off…I sit in my bunker and wait.
I’ll be squirming in my seat if we get a 1st and 2nd from the Vikings. Don’t like it, but workable.
If we trade JA for a 1st and 3rd from the Vikings. Blood will shoot forth from my eyes. I will rip my head apart like a bad horror flick and a giant preying mantis bug will emerge, sprout wings, and fly off into the night in search of Karls house.
But, sigh, here is an idea if the 1st and 2nd goes through.
1st Jake Long (trade up with second 2nd round pick)
1st Brian Brohm
2nd Sam Baker (or maybe some kinda trade up for)
(Aquib Talib)
I don’t know. I just dont know anymore
April 20th, 2008 at 12:58 amHow about Jared for their first and both thirds?
I just worry about whomever we get if we can sign them and get them in camp on time. The learning curve for all of these rookies is going to be great and if you are expecting 5 starters out of this class they have to produce now.
Hows this
1st Chris Long
April 20th, 2008 at 5:38 am1st Otah
2nd Flowers
3rd Pollack
3rd wr from Bama
I say we continue to talk to Minnesota and demand nothing less than these following packages:
April 20th, 2008 at 9:01 am1. Jared for their 1st and 2nd
2. Jared for their 1st and both 3rds
3. Jared for their 1st, 3rd, and 09 2nd
If they dont offer one of these packages we say screw em and then match the offer sheet put up by whoever tries to sign him. It is not like the Chiefs dont have the cap room to pull this off.
czar, i said this in the other strand about the 1sts in 09-10 the vikes COULD put a “poison pill” in the contract. in essence they could make it where we couldnt(or damn near impossible) to match and if we did it could hamper our cap for years to come. look what they did with hutchinson do you think the seabirds WANTED to let him go?
April 20th, 2008 at 10:01 amwriter you need to understand this also
April 20th, 2008 at 10:02 amif we get talib then i will do to myself exactly what you said masterblaster
April 20th, 2008 at 10:04 amWho cares about a poison pill. Vikes won’t do it. (Heard Zilfi(sic) say he would not give up two first rounders for him). If they do, we get two first rounders in 09 and 10. Sounds good to me! Either way we are in the driver’s seat on this. We control our situation. Carl could have made him an exclusive Franchise player but he did not. Maybe he wanted Jared to go all along. Jared is as good as gone, and we will move on!
April 20th, 2008 at 10:34 amOk, what your not considering Jeremy, with the poison pill, is that the picks are in 09,10. That means that if they do get JA, and they are most likely vaulted into two seasons of play off contention, we would be picking like 26-32 for 2 years. Thats just a really good 2nd rounder. Would you trade JA for two top of the board 2nd rounders? I didnt think so.
April 20th, 2008 at 12:33 pmalso it really hurts this year. if that were to happen then this rebuilding will take that much longer
April 20th, 2008 at 12:39 pmI was really crushed by the possible lost of Allen at first but I’ve grown more comfortable with it. If a guy wants to leave that bad its best to let him go and they need the picks. I can believe Carl will if not blow the deal outright manage to alienate all parties involved.
April 20th, 2008 at 6:34 pmthe buccaneers have 5 picks..
1st rd..20th
2nd rd..52nd
3rd rd..83rd
4th rd..120th
5th rd..153rd
i dont know..maybe we will be able to get something done with these guys since the viqueens must not wanna come off some pickSSSS
April 20th, 2008 at 6:46 pmnot acceptable on the bucs part all picks are worse than the vikes
April 20th, 2008 at 6:50 pmyea but at least we could get it done this yr and not the next 2..id rather have my cake and eat it too..not let it sit
April 20th, 2008 at 6:57 pmOk Jason you make a good point but I do not think the league office would let that one go thru…remember the last time they tried that and it caused such a stink….so a poison pill like that would probably not work…however if they did allow it then we are up the creek….so you are right and in that case Czar had a point…however I do not think that the league office will let it go thru….
April 21st, 2008 at 1:19 amthey just let seattle sign burleson yo a contract that stated if he played 5 games in one year in the state of minn. his 49 mil contract was guaranteed, now do we really want to guarantee a 60-70 million dollar contract to a guy who COULD get suspended pretty easily?
April 21st, 2008 at 7:09 amYou’re all completely insane if you think the Vikings are dumb enough to give up 3 draft picks for Allen. As a Vikings fan there is nobody I’d like more at the DE position than Allen, but for you to assume that the Vikings are dumb enough to just pull the trigger no matter what, you’ve got another thing coming. Just know if Carl screws this up and Allen is in KC next year, it’s going to be a hell of a time convincing him to play 100% if he feels unwanted.
April 21st, 2008 at 1:43 pmWell I woulnd’t say dumb enough to believe because it always could be a 1st, 3rd, and a later round pick. So it could be a possibility…
Its nice to see some Vikings fans come over and stir up the pot. Keep bringing it! We love you meth-head scary looking freaks. Your kind of like our step-brothers, lol.
April 21st, 2008 at 2:05 pm