Comments on: Bye, Bye Jared Allen? http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/ A Kansas City Chiefs blog Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:04:26 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Dustan http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/comment-page-1/#comment-13055 Dustan Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:58:43 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/#comment-13055 I guess that you don't have to pick a DE with the #5 but you have to admit that we are losing ground at RE with that scenario. There is NO WAY you can put Turk anywhere even close to the same league as JA right now so I guess you mortgage some of the best of the defense to buy some offense. Yes Turk was a second and JA was a 4th but the round a player is picked in only carries him so far. After a while he has to start earning the position. I know I sound like I hate this idea but the thing is I don't see enough up side. We know what we have with JA and we know he is dominate. It's not like we are talking about a mediocre player here, he is the sack leader in the league. That WILL hurt our defense. I guess that you don’t have to pick a DE with the #5 but you have to admit that we are losing ground at RE with that scenario. There is NO WAY you can put Turk anywhere even close to the same league as JA right now so I guess you mortgage some of the best of the defense to buy some offense. Yes Turk was a second and JA was a 4th but the round a player is picked in only carries him so far. After a while he has to start earning the position.

I know I sound like I hate this idea but the thing is I don’t see enough up side. We know what we have with JA and we know he is dominate. It’s not like we are talking about a mediocre player here, he is the sack leader in the league. That WILL hurt our defense.

]]> By: Zach http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/comment-page-1/#comment-13054 Zach Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:57:43 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/#comment-13054 Well I am not 100% sold that you HAVE TO pick a DE. Herm feels confident that Turk can play so why not give him a shot. He was a second round pick. Hell we let Kris Wilson and the rest of Dick-V's crew run around for a few years. If we are going to rebuild might as well see what we got. Well I am not 100% sold that you HAVE TO pick a DE. Herm feels confident that Turk can play so why not give him a shot. He was a second round pick.

Hell we let Kris Wilson and the rest of Dick-V’s crew run around for a few years. If we are going to rebuild might as well see what we got.

]]> By: Dustan http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/comment-page-1/#comment-13053 Dustan Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:53:41 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/#comment-13053 What MasterBlaster is saying is that we would have to use the first rounder that we get from MN to replace the player that we are trading so that first round pick is void. I think of it a little more harsh than that even. I think that if you truly want to replace JA then you have to use the #5 pick. In that scenario you trade JA for an unproven player and now you only have a lower 1st rnd and another 2nd. This would take away the chance to pick any player you want with #5. What MasterBlaster is saying is that we would have to use the first rounder that we get from MN to replace the player that we are trading so that first round pick is void. I think of it a little more harsh than that even. I think that if you truly want to replace JA then you have to use the #5 pick. In that scenario you trade JA for an unproven player and now you only have a lower 1st rnd and another 2nd. This would take away the chance to pick any player you want with #5.

]]> By: ComeSackMyQB http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/comment-page-1/#comment-13013 ComeSackMyQB Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:50:08 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/#comment-13013 sorry..i meant make him stay sorry..i meant make him stay

]]> By: ComeSackMyQB http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/comment-page-1/#comment-13012 ComeSackMyQB Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:49:17 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/#comment-13012 we would have our first and their first..plus we cant kake him stay otherwise he wont produce..and we dont need a disgruntled player just passing time...we need a guy who is gonna go out and kick ass we would have our first and their first..plus we cant kake him stay otherwise he wont produce..and we dont need a disgruntled player just passing time…we need a guy who is gonna go out and kick ass

]]> By: MasterBlaster http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/comment-page-1/#comment-13014 MasterBlaster Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:13:38 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/#comment-13014 Ok. I want to double check on this before I begin my rant. If we signed JA to a 6 year deal he wouldn't be able to walk in a year with UFA right? I just wana make sure im understanding how that works. If he cant walk. Jesus. Sign him. I've been thinking about this Vikings deal too. Basicly JA is a Pro bowl player in his prime. Maybe even a Future Hall of Famer in his prime. By that I mean he has a good 6 or 7 years left on his motor. A proven pro bowler, without injuries, in his prime is the MOST VALUABLE COMODITY in the NFL. Now, to replace a player like this, your gona need a 1st round pick. So, really...by trading him...all you are geting is a 2nd round pick, because JA needs to be replaced. Nope. Not gona do it. Would'nt be prudent. Its a bad trade. The only way I could see letting JA go is either 2 1st round picks from the Vikings. Or a 1st and 2nd from the vikings and a player like Deangalo Hall (to fill a need with a star). Other than that...no deal. Ok. I want to double check on this before I begin my rant. If we signed JA to a 6 year deal he wouldn’t be able to walk in a year with UFA right? I just wana make sure im understanding how that works. If he cant walk. Jesus. Sign him.

I’ve been thinking about this Vikings deal too. Basicly JA is a Pro bowl player in his prime. Maybe even a Future Hall of Famer in his prime. By that I mean he has a good 6 or 7 years left on his motor. A proven pro bowler, without injuries, in his prime is the MOST VALUABLE COMODITY in the NFL.

Now, to replace a player like this, your gona need a 1st round pick. So, really…by trading him…all you are geting is a 2nd round pick, because JA needs to be replaced. Nope. Not gona do it. Would’nt be prudent. Its a bad trade. The only way I could see letting JA go is either 2 1st round picks from the Vikings. Or a 1st and 2nd from the vikings and a player like Deangalo Hall (to fill a need with a star). Other than that…no deal.

]]> By: jason http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/comment-page-1/#comment-13018 jason Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:38:22 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/#comment-13018 now im not on carls side here but he did say ja is not a exclusive rights guy so maybe hes the one doing all this to get more money from us. or anyone else. money makes the world go round now im not on carls side here but he did say ja is not a exclusive rights guy so maybe hes the one doing all this to get more money from us. or anyone else. money makes the world go round

]]> By: Crane http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/comment-page-1/#comment-13017 Crane Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:25:42 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/#comment-13017 btw espn.com had Allen's sacks at 15.5 btw espn.com had Allen’s sacks at 15.5

]]> By: Crane http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/comment-page-1/#comment-13016 Crane Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:23:47 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/#comment-13016 Carl is shrewd, he's saying he's letting Jared see what he's worth, but in reality, he's seeing what he can try to get for him. I think we gotta swap with a star and picks... i.e. DeMarcus Ware and a pick or something like that. Also, yeah, I agree with Zach again, Carl is impossible to work with and probably can't stand the amount of money he is paying out because he's been around too long. He will Cheap us right out of it all. The Hunts probably love him, he saves all sorts of dough. Carl is shrewd, he’s saying he’s letting Jared see what he’s worth, but in reality, he’s seeing what he can try to get for him. I think we gotta swap with a star and picks… i.e. DeMarcus Ware and a pick or something like that. Also, yeah, I agree with Zach again, Carl is impossible to work with and probably can’t stand the amount of money he is paying out because he’s been around too long. He will Cheap us right out of it all. The Hunts probably love him, he saves all sorts of dough.

]]> By: Jeremy (Riverside, CA) http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/comment-page-1/#comment-13015 Jeremy (Riverside, CA) Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:47:42 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/04/17/bye-bye-jared-allen/#comment-13015 Seriously, we have not been privy to the contract negotiations. Don't automatically assume Carl is the bad guy. Maybe Jared wants way too much, he made the comment that he wants to be on a team that has a chance to win a championship. If he wants to go, then we will surely lose him next year, take what you can get now. I would love Jared to stay, but if it can't happen then so be it. I am a Chief's fan first, then a Jared fan. Just don't assume the Chiefs Brass are stupid. Seriously, we have not been privy to the contract negotiations. Don’t automatically assume Carl is the bad guy. Maybe Jared wants way too much, he made the comment that he wants to be on a team that has a chance to win a championship. If he wants to go, then we will surely lose him next year, take what you can get now. I would love Jared to stay, but if it can’t happen then so be it. I am a Chief’s fan first, then a Jared fan. Just don’t assume the Chiefs Brass are stupid.

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