Fox Sports’ Jay Glazer is reporting that Jared Allen’s days are numbered in Kansas City.
Jared Allen’s days with the Chiefs appear to be numbered.
Allen, the NFL’s reigning sack leader, told FOXSports.com that the Vikings and Buccaneers have held trade talks with the Chiefs and he anticipates a deal will get done prior to next week’s draft.
“It’s a situation that works out best for both sides,” Allen told FOXSports.com. “I can go to a team that is competing for a championship right now. The Chiefs can get valuable draft picks to rebuild with.”
Allen said he is flying to Minnesota and has a visit set up with the Vikings by this weekend. He is tentatively scheduled to meet with Tampa Bay next week. The Jacksonville Jaguars had previously inquired with Allen’s camp as well.
The Pro Bowl defensive end is the Chiefs’ franchise player, but re-signing in Kansas City will be a problem as the team is looking to stockpile draft picks.
Allen said the two sticking points are working out terms of a deal with a new team and the Chiefs agreeing to compensation for a trade. A package of first- and second-round picks or one of first- and third-round picks in the upcoming draft have been discussed as possible terms. It’s unclear at this point what it will take to get the deal done.
This tells me that Carl Peterson is impossible to work with. He has failed all offseason to have guys he targeted to even visit Kansas City. Agents and players are sick of dealing with a man that has been in power for 20 years. Trading a guy like Jared Allen makes zero sense to me, but Adam I know feels a bit different about the situation. I just feel that tells me that no one in the NFL wants to work with this egomaniac and it is time for him to go (too bad this probably won’t happen until he steps down, which is basically like pulling an Al Davis)!
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I say trade him becasue i don’t think he will sign next year and we should get something in return for a talent like that
Allen said this:
“It’s a situation that works out best for both sides,” Allen told FOXSports.com. “I can go to a team that is competing for a championship right now. The Chiefs can get valuable draft picks to rebuild with.”
Are you kidding me….. The Vikes and the Bucs are no closer to winning a championship than we are! It is all abot the money for Jared. (I don’t hate him for that, but don’t feed me that line of crap!)
I think Carl is letting Jared get a feel for what he is worth.
Again, if the offer is too good to pass up, then why pass it up? We are re-building. (By the way, I do not want to see him go).
Good point Ian Brennan!
i sure hope we dont actually let him go..we better get a 1st and a 2nd at least..maybe then we pick up gohlston at 5..i didnt want to be in this predicament..i thought i had it figured out what we were more likely to do..now they throw a frickin curveball in there…well at least if we get another 1st rd pick and its later we can start on o line in the 1st too
omg this is dume why not to a team that if you are that we can get some one that we need if there no way around it dam dam dam well we know who kc is going to get on in the draft now glenn dorsey still good but dam not allen but now kc got to put 91 on the other side so he can do better as well
I see the point of getting something for him because he wont be back next year and I am fine with that as long as we get compensated.
My problem is with Carl. Everything up to this point in his career is telling me that not many people want to even try and negotiate with this guy. FIRE CARL!
(By the way I have never ever been this harsh on Carl, but I cant take it anymore)
What has me more pissed, is that we were never this aggresive in any kind of trade with LJ. Jared is a far more vital part of our rebuilding than any RB is, hell, remember when our Defense was the laughing stock of the league, he was part of the turn around. A few years ago, we would have been able to get good value for LJ, and you can find a RB anywhere to replace his loss. Now, a great DE is VERY hard to find, there’s only a few in the damn league to begin with, and now we’re looking to get rid of one of them. This would set us back again, not boost us up.
How did I know that LJ would be one of the first attacked because of this….
This trade should only happen on draft day, when we are on the clock, and only if Gholston or Chirs Long are available, but Dorsey is not. If Dorsey is on the board, pick him up, hold onto Jared, and worry about the O-Line in round two. I know Jared said he wouldn’t re-sign with the Chiefs if he goes into camp with the franchise tag, but I imagine CP franchised him so that we could hold him during free agency, sign our draft picks and rookie FAs, and then know how much money he has to work with so we could structure a deal that wouldn’t decimate our long-term salary cap.
But I think too many Chiefs fans have been swinging from Jared’s jock. Don’t get me wrong, the guy is a monster, and a complete player at that as he is now playing really well against the run, batting passes down at the line, and getting the pass rush. But there is one big problem with Jared, and I like to call that problem the fourth quarter. His 14.5 sacks lead the league, awesome, but only two occurred in the second half of a game when it really counts. Everyone loves his personality, myself included, and he’s the kinda guy I would love to go drinking with. But we have the opportunity to replace him with a guy who has the potential to be just as good or even better over the long term and do it for cheaper, plus grab an extra pick in the first and thrid at minimum. Sounds like a deal to me if the right guy is available at the five spot. And that is why I vote in favor of the trade.
It’s obvious. Hell, Kolby Smith could get us through a year at RB, until it’s time to REALLY upgrade. The need to have 1 stud workhorse has gone the way of the FB. The bottom line is you can win with a so-so, platoon of RB’s, can’t say the same for a mediocre defensive line.
I’m going to be furious if this happens. This kid has been the most amazing, most potential-filled, most over-achieving, and most fan-friendly player I’ve seen since probably DT (and likely, if you count fan-friendly, I’d say he supersedes Derrick). To let him go… Wow. This might be the draw that breaks my camel’s back, seriously. Wow.
-cw
/BTW, I sadly must agree with Zach that if he’s gonna go, we should get something for him.
//Doesn’t help.
Agreed, but how many games did Kolby Smith win us?
All I was saying is that I knew that LJ would get hammered like he always does from Chiefs fans. Like Ken said everyone is on Jareds Jock and he was the guy that got suspended. He is also the guy not wanting to resign with the Chiefs were LJ was willing too.
By the way Ken that was a great post and you have really been putting up some quality stuff!
I want to see how many people disagree with Adams 5-11 prediction if this trade happens, lol
Holy cow. This is huge news. This ruins your team. This ruins the possibility of the chiefs going at least 6-10.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not an LJ hater, just picked up his authentic jersey last weekend. But I’m a Chief’s fan before I’m an LJ fan. It’s just that he would have been so much easier to replace, especially seeing as how there’s question marks on every DE in this draft. Keep the proven commodity over the upside.
Vikings | Team considering offering draft picks for Allen
Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:43:18 -0700
John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the Minnesota Vikings are considering offering their first-round pick and second-round pick in next year’s NFL Draft to the Kansas City Chiefs in exchange for DL Jared Allen, according to sources.
this is off of KFFL
Wasn’t Jared our leading scorer last year?
Seriously, while I understand and can live with it if the trade works out well, it also seems incredibly risky from a business perspective. Jared Allen is fun to watch and puts butts in the seats. It will be interesting to see what happens to ticket sales if this transpires.
Ken, great insight and analysis! I agree totally.
I also agree with the anti-Carl sentiments. Just another in a long line of fuck ups. Maybe the fallout from this will be enough to cause the axe to fall.
PICKS NEXT YEAR? WHAT SENSE DOES THAT MAKE?
Yes I typed in all caps cause that will really piss me off. Especially because the Vikings will be a playoff team!
Agreed – We better get draft picks this year, not next!!!
i mean really..all he has done this off season is sign a LB a WR and 3 FB..really..we need 3 FB over workin a deal with our sack leader
Larry -
I hear ya. DL is very important just look at the Giants. But I also think to win it all you have to have either a superstar QB or RB. And you for sure dont have a superstar QB.
But really what the hell is the point of working Larry into the ground this year? Why not just let him get 10 touches a game and save those miles when we will be good again. (OK I know I am ridiculous right now)
ComeSackMyQB -
and a OL or a CB…..
yea..i forgot..anyways..none of these guys..have proven themselves anywhere close to what allen has done
id think he has some kind of priority
i meant that as..really..we need 3 Fb over workin a deal with our sack leader????????
Perhaps Herm Edwards feels that Jared Allen does not fit the profile of a “Chiefs” player. If the feeling is that Jared would bolt (next year) to whomever could offer him the largest paycheck, the Chiefs may figure now is the time to do something rather than after Jared has been the franchise player for the 2008 season. Jared is coming off a great season as the NFL sack leader. If Jared is more committed to that big paycheck (which usually comes once in a player’s career) and he is not going to be happy in K.C. why not shop him around and see what the market is (what he’s worth), and if it would be to the Chief’s advantage to trade now. It may be better for all concerned, but still I can’t imagine Jared wearing any pro colors other than red and gold.
Here is another question? Would fans boycott his new restaurant?
I haven’t been, but just felt like I would throw it out there.
I wouldn’t feel very motivated to patronage the business of a player from another team. Never ate at Copelands either.
FLUCK HIM..HE CAN MOVE HIS DAMN RESTRAUNT TOO..sorry..didnt mean to yell
SPELL CHECK…LOL..RESTAURANT
There is a conversation on the forums about Ocho for Jared… If you havent joined the forums than you are missing out. Head over there and get signed up!
http://fansided.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=183
Chiefs Statement on the Status of DE Jared Allen
Apr 17, 2008, 1:50:01 PM
“We will confirm that we have been in conversation with a few teams regarding the possibility of acquiring Jared Allen’s contractual rights. Any potential agreement would be contingent on the Chiefs receiving appropriate compensation and Jared’s representative reaching a contract agreement.
“Jared is not an exclusive franchise player. Therefore, based on the terms of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, he has the right to visit and negotiate with other teams. However, for any trade to be completed, the Chiefs would need to reach an agreement on compensation. At this point, all of these discussions are preliminary.”
- Carl Peterson, President
would we have got read of dt if we had him and this happend hell no this is dume really what happend to the hole shepperd trade
Already got that posted but thanks rob!
Seriously, we have not been privy to the contract negotiations. Don’t automatically assume Carl is the bad guy. Maybe Jared wants way too much, he made the comment that he wants to be on a team that has a chance to win a championship. If he wants to go, then we will surely lose him next year, take what you can get now. I would love Jared to stay, but if it can’t happen then so be it. I am a Chief’s fan first, then a Jared fan. Just don’t assume the Chiefs Brass are stupid.
Carl is shrewd, he’s saying he’s letting Jared see what he’s worth, but in reality, he’s seeing what he can try to get for him. I think we gotta swap with a star and picks… i.e. DeMarcus Ware and a pick or something like that. Also, yeah, I agree with Zach again, Carl is impossible to work with and probably can’t stand the amount of money he is paying out because he’s been around too long. He will Cheap us right out of it all. The Hunts probably love him, he saves all sorts of dough.
btw espn.com had Allen’s sacks at 15.5
now im not on carls side here but he did say ja is not a exclusive rights guy so maybe hes the one doing all this to get more money from us. or anyone else. money makes the world go round
Ok. I want to double check on this before I begin my rant. If we signed JA to a 6 year deal he wouldn’t be able to walk in a year with UFA right? I just wana make sure im understanding how that works. If he cant walk. Jesus. Sign him.
I’ve been thinking about this Vikings deal too. Basicly JA is a Pro bowl player in his prime. Maybe even a Future Hall of Famer in his prime. By that I mean he has a good 6 or 7 years left on his motor. A proven pro bowler, without injuries, in his prime is the MOST VALUABLE COMODITY in the NFL.
Now, to replace a player like this, your gona need a 1st round pick. So, really…by trading him…all you are geting is a 2nd round pick, because JA needs to be replaced. Nope. Not gona do it. Would’nt be prudent. Its a bad trade. The only way I could see letting JA go is either 2 1st round picks from the Vikings. Or a 1st and 2nd from the vikings and a player like Deangalo Hall (to fill a need with a star). Other than that…no deal.
we would have our first and their first..plus we cant kake him stay otherwise he wont produce..and we dont need a disgruntled player just passing time…we need a guy who is gonna go out and kick ass
sorry..i meant make him stay
What MasterBlaster is saying is that we would have to use the first rounder that we get from MN to replace the player that we are trading so that first round pick is void. I think of it a little more harsh than that even. I think that if you truly want to replace JA then you have to use the #5 pick. In that scenario you trade JA for an unproven player and now you only have a lower 1st rnd and another 2nd. This would take away the chance to pick any player you want with #5.
Well I am not 100% sold that you HAVE TO pick a DE. Herm feels confident that Turk can play so why not give him a shot. He was a second round pick.
Hell we let Kris Wilson and the rest of Dick-V’s crew run around for a few years. If we are going to rebuild might as well see what we got.
I guess that you don’t have to pick a DE with the #5 but you have to admit that we are losing ground at RE with that scenario. There is NO WAY you can put Turk anywhere even close to the same league as JA right now so I guess you mortgage some of the best of the defense to buy some offense. Yes Turk was a second and JA was a 4th but the round a player is picked in only carries him so far. After a while he has to start earning the position.
I know I sound like I hate this idea but the thing is I don’t see enough up side. We know what we have with JA and we know he is dominate. It’s not like we are talking about a mediocre player here, he is the sack leader in the league. That WILL hurt our defense.