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27 Mar

Arrowhead Addict’s Pre-TB3 Mock

I’ve already gotten a lot of flak on this mock, so I wanted to make an introductory statement. (By the way, both flak or smack are totally cool. But, remember, if you fire at us over here at A.A., you better duck and yell “incoming.” )

Yes, this is an exercise of some sorts, leading up to “The Blueprint 3.” But who’s to say that it couldn’t happen. I want to give Chiefs fans different looks and prepare them for every scenario, that way they aren’t shocked on draft day.

Listen people, there are seven elite players in this draft. Any of those players could go anywhere in the top five and it would not be a shocker to me at all. The Rams and Raiders aren’t likely to go Matt Ryan, but other than that anything can happen. Any team in the top five could draft Jake Long. Ditto with the DTs. There’s been a trend of teams who already have a franchise running back drafting another one in the top ten. Run DMC could go anywhere in the top seven. Same with the defensive ends, even though I think we would pass on either. A CB could move up, maybe Dominique Rogers-Cromartie or Leodis McKelvin. Hell, maybe some team reaches for Chris Williams or Ryan Clady. Could happen.

Look at last year: Ted Ginn? Purple Jesus? Brady Quinn? Did anyone predict any of those? No.

If you don’t have an open mind and ponder every possible scenario, the draft can and will shock you. Guaranteed. That being said, let’s get started, folks…

Team	1st Round
	1. Miami Dolphins – OT Jake Long, Michigan The Tuna starts off his rebuilding project with a different menu item–beef. The player some consider to be the surest bet in the draft goes first, just edging out the other Long, Chris. Knowing the Dolphins extremely well–I used to cover the Fins–I can honestly say that their offensive line might be in worse shape than ours. Sorry, Chiefs fans, this could very likely end up being there pick.
	2. St. Louis Rams – DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU With Glenn Dorsey putting most of the injury issues to bed, he retakes his old spot in the top three of the draft. St. Louis continues to revamp its defense by adding Dorsey to Carriker and Co. The fallout is simple; the defensive ends slide a little, and Sedrick Ellis is now the top DT.
	3. Atlanta Falcons – QB Matt Ryan, Boston College It hurts to type this, but Matty Ice likely goes of the board. Hey, at least quite a few other Chiefs fans get their wish. With Michael Turner and Roddy White in the fold, the Falcons import Ryan to the ATL to spearhead the “O.” Even if the Falcons decide to pass on Ryan, there is a strong possibility that some other team, say Baltimore, trades up and grabs Ryan here. Unfortunately–or maybe fortunately, depending on your POV when it comes to Ryan–this is the spot where he’ll almost certainly be picked.
	4. Oakland Raiders – DT Sedrick Ellis, USC I’m going Ellis here for a number of reasons. First, there’s the USC ties to Lane Kiffin. Second, the Raiders need a defensive tackle more than and end after the retirement of Warren Sapp. Third, this sets up “The Blueprint 3.” What if all that’s left from”the Significant Seven” is Run DMC and the two D-ends? I also really, really don’t expect the Silver and Black to move back.
	5. Kansas City Chiefs – RB Darren McFadden, Arkansas With both Gholsten and Long on the board, neither the Jets nor Pats will want to move up here. It’s possible that the Cowboys will call, but let’s pretend that scenario doesn’t unfold. With our top four guys all gone, what in the hell do we do? We don’t reach. We don’t take Ryan Clady, an underclassmen with an IQ similar to Cuba Gooding Jr.’s in Radio who mostly played against suspect competition in college. I really like Chris Williams, but this is still too high. We can wait on a corner, which Herm will want to do anyway. So, hmmm… Two issues here: A.) You can’t reach in the top five in a draft with seven elite players; B.) We absolutely, positively don’t need a defensive end with Jared, Tamba and Turk already in the fold. Once again, hmmm… If Dallas or no other team calls it’s Run DMC. There’s your TB3 teaser. More explanation sometime this weekend…
	6. New York Jets – DE Chris Long, Virginia
	7. New England Patriots (From 49ers) – DE Vernon Gholsten
	8. Baltimore Ravens – OT Ryan Clady, Boise St.
	9. Cincinnati Bengals – CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Tenn. St.
	10. New Orleans Saints – OLB Keith Rivers, USC
	11. Buffalo Bills – WR Devin Thomas, Michigan State
	12. Denver Broncos – OT Chris Williams, Vanderbilt
	13. Carolina Panthers – RB Rashard Mendenhall, Illinois
	14. Chicago Bears – RB Jonathan Stewart, Oregon
	15. Detroit Lions – CB Leodis McKelvin, Troy
	16. Arizona Cardinals – CB Mike Jenkins, South Florida
	17. Minnesota Vikings – DE Derrick Harvey, Florida
	18. Houston Texans – RB Felix Jones, Arkansa
	19. Philadelphia Eagles – WR Limas Sweed, Oklahoma
	20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – WR DeSean Jackson, Cal
	21. Washington Redskins – WR James Hardy, Indiana
	22. Dallas Cowboys (From Browns) – CB Aqib Talib, Kansas
	23. Pittsburgh Steelers – G Branden Albert, Virginia
	24. Tennessee Titans – WR Early Doucet, LSU
	25. Seattle Seahawks – OT Sam Baker, USC
	26. Jacksonville Jaguars – DE Phillip Merling, Clemson
	27. San Diego Chargers – CB Antoine Cason, Arizona
	28. Dallas Cowboys – WR Malcolm Kelly, Oklahoma
	29. San Francisco 49ers (From Colts) – DE/OLB Quentin Groves, Auburn
	30. Green Bay Packers – S Kenny Phillips, Miami
	FORFEITED
	31. New York Giants – DT Pat Sims, Auburn

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85 Responses to “Arrowhead Addict’s Pre-TB3 Mock”

1. Czar Says:

There is no way both Chris Long and Vernon fall out of top 5… I agree that BPA must be taken but a DT will be available.
March 27th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
2. ComeSackMyQB Says:

i dont think either one will fall out and if they do..can we really pass on long..or gholsten for that matter…but as bad as we need o linemen right now can you really call anything a reach..if you grab someone who might be at the 10 spot or a lil lower..maybe alil higher..can you really call that a reach when you need that person..when you need that position..
March 27th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
3. playaction31 Says:

I am so glad you put this scenario up

It seems like we have all settled on to a favorite player – well what do we do if all of them are taken

I totally agree that if all of the players are gone that we are targeting and no one is willing to trade up to our spot…..You HAVE to take the BEST PLAYER on the board!

In this case it is DMAC – I know we don’t need him, but we are better off with him than to reach.
March 27th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
4. ComeSackMyQB Says:

dont get me wrong..i was the one who in the beginning was all for tryin to work out a deal for LJ and draftin DMAC but i dont think we draft him and keep both…well..if we pick him up and we keep him and LJ then we are definately stickin it out with Croyle which i dont really mind either..but somewhere in this draft we need linemen..
March 27th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
5. playaction31 Says:

you can still draft a great Tackle in the 2nd round and a great Guard/Center in the 3rd

the point here is you don’t waste your top 5 pick

If your top guys in the need position are gone you don’t reach, but rather take the gift that is there called McFadden
March 27th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
6. Bill Says:

maybe this is why the chiefs are saving up so much cap space
March 27th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
7. ComeSackMyQB Says:

i hear ya..imagine that one two punch…sweetness
March 27th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
8. playaction31 Says:

It doesn’t matter what the position it is – the #5 spot is going to be expensive no matter what(but we have plenty of money)…..I hear what you are saying though

and yes – that would be a unbelievable one two punch

but I remind everyone that I think this is only the last resort….if Jake Long or Dorsey or Ellis are there I think we take them instead

But by all means draft the Stud if he is our best option – it worked out great when we took LJ with Priest on the team
March 27th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
9. Taylor Says:

I WANT EVERYONE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBER 24 PICK AND THEN AT THE 28 PICK, WHAT DO YOU SEE????
March 27th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
10. ComeSackMyQB Says:

soo the man is pullin double duty…lol..yea he messed up..we arent worried bout those picks anyways..they arent ours
March 27th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
11. merlinnj Says:

Adam: In the age of the Salary Cap you are going draft Run DMC and tie up that much money in the RB position???? I see this even less than I see your ‘draft Matt Ryan idea’.
March 27th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
12. playaction31 Says:

I am going to totally stick up for Adam on this one

Is it alot of money for the RB position – yes

but we can afford it – especially when you consider the “new philosophy” of taking young players instead of over priced vets.

that would be money well spend – no questions asked
March 27th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
13. ComeSackMyQB Says:

until 26 days from now..everything is debatable..nothing is taboo…we all know how crazy the s**t can get on draft day so right now im just gonna put it out there that almost anything..and i mean anything would do us better than we did us last yr…we all have our own little senario we would like to see play out..some are more realistic than others..but when it comes down to it..we never know what to expect outta our g.m…
March 27th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
14. merlinnj Says:

playaction. I couldn’t disagree with you more. With all the holes on this team, we should not add him to a RB mix that already includes LJ and Kolby Smith. RB is not our problem.
March 27th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
15. playaction31 Says:

Of coarse its not the problem – O Line is the problem…but you can still take care of it

Cornerback is a problem….you can still take care of it

the draft is not over if you take him….rather it has just started and you started it with the best player in the Frikin draft

again I say that this is last resort for me – I want J Long/Dorsey/Ellis or a trade down before this even becomes an issue
March 27th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
16. Adam Says:

ComeSackMyQB, if you pick in the elite-player range and don’t get an elite player, yes, you are reaching.

Czar, the two DTs could easily be gone, especially with Dorsey back in business.
March 27th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
17. Adam Says:

We have a ton of cap room, Merlin, and if we are given this gift and DEs as our options we would be stupid not to take it. Look what drafting Peterson even though they had a ton of cash tied up in Chester Taylor did for the Vikes. If we have that gift there and nothing else that really works that isn’t a reach, we have to do it. Kolby Smith should never keep a team from adding a Run DMC, not with his average talent and small salary. You can go and get a T and a G in the next two rounds.

Already a ton of comments, but I’ll answer everything in TB3.
March 27th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
18. ComeSackMyQB Says:

i get ya adam..i got ya as soon as i posted..spit it out before i really thought..anyways..i think as far as top 5 talent goes..ill be happy with any of them
March 27th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
19. Clinton Says:

I say you take Chris Long and move Hali inside or put Long at outside linebacker, or trade allen. I just think we could use Long more than McFadden, but just one mans opinion.
March 27th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
20. MasterBlaster Says:

Trade our 1st round pick this year for Miami’s 1st round pick next year. You know they will be in the top 5 again.
March 27th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
21. ComeSackMyQB Says:

WTF…what kinda point would that serve…then what..
March 28th, 2008 at 12:30 am
22. Herm Edwards Says:

This mock is flawed. There’s no way the Raiders take Sedrick Ellis after giving 40 million to Tommy Kelley.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:47 am
23. KCMizzou Says:

This is probably the worst mock I’ve seen. Garbage.
March 28th, 2008 at 4:56 am
24. bigchief13 Says:

I do not think Chris Long will make it to us, and if he does, I think he’d be the smart pick. As Clinton says, you can move him around, he does not nessesarily have to play end. This is all just banter though since he’s going #1 to Miami. The one thing I’m concerned about is that the Falcon’s will be smart enough not to draft Ryan. They have been saying that they like the QB situation in RD 2, and I can’t blame them. Also, it wouldn’t blow my mind if Al Davis pulls a stunt and drafts DMC. He’s gotta be drooling a little more than usual when he sees DMC is available at #4. The guy is a bone head.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:33 am
25. Dave Says:

Herm Edwards/KCMizzou you are missing the point.

this is not a real mock draft – I don’t expect it to go this way either

the point is to show us in a worst case scenario do you reach for a Otah/Clady, reach for a Cornerback like DRC/Talib, reach for a Brian Brohm…..

or do you take the best athlete/football player which in this case would be Darren Kick everyones A$$ McFadden.

I am going on record saying that you take the top player – so give the man a break and see this for what it realy is
March 28th, 2008 at 8:49 am
26. Gholston Says:

I will kill you if you make another mock this pitiful. Nobody is going to take Dorsey with a top 3 pick when he has major injury concerns. The Dolphins will take Chris Long, Rams will take Vernon Gholston, Falcons will take Jake Long, Raiders will take DMAC, and Chiefs will then take Dorsey or Ellis. Get it together AA.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:49 am
27. Gholston Says:

Go to this link and their is a real mock draft… http://condraft.com/mocks/member-mocks/?id=4881
March 28th, 2008 at 8:51 am
28. Dave Says:

Hey Gholston or should I say Herm Edwards

my last post goes to you too
March 28th, 2008 at 8:55 am
29. merlinnj Says:

Gholston: I don’t like Adam’s mock and I think he is way, way off. However, how about toning down the rhetoric? “I will kill you”, ‘nobody is going to take” how about leaving yourself some wiggle room?
March 28th, 2008 at 9:36 am
30. Adam Says:

Gholsten, don’t think you’re a little biased, do you? Don’t know what gave me that idea…maybe your name? Anyway, this is going to be a commenter execution. I’ve warned commenters before about coming at me or the site with that kind of smack, so you’re done.

First off, that isn’t a real draft, buddy. Kenny Phillips and Malcolm “Bum Knees” Kelly go way too high, and DRC goes way too late, for starters. Besides, every draft has Chris Long going first. Why? Is he better than Jake Long? No. Has The Tuna actually tipped his hand anything? No.

As for Gholsten vs. Dorsey, a dipshit like you probably doesn’t check the news everyday, but those injury concerns were put to bed yesterday after Dorsey’s Pro Day. Besides, the Rams already have Carriker and Little and don’t really need Gholsten. You’re probably just some “pitiful” OSU fan mad that the Tigers brought it to your Buckeyes in the National Championship.

Looks like you are the one who needs to get it together. Face.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:53 am
31. Adam Says:

After waking up to a bunch of little girls talking smack on my mock, I’ve decide that commenters will continue to get lit up like Jason Belser in coverage…

KCMizzou, coming from a Mizzou fan that’s a compliment. Send me your own mock and I’ll feature it. I’m serious. We’ll see if yours is “garbage” or not. E-mail it to me at arrowheadaddict@gmail.com. You’re a good commenter and nice guy so I won’t hit you any harder than that, but on A.A. if you sing it you gotta bring it.

Herm Edwards, your brain is flawed, dude. You prove my point for me–the Raiders spent $40 M on Kelly! That’s nuts, so what’s to say they don’t continue down that same path? Also, last time I checked, the 4-3 requires two DTs. Call me crazy, but I think there’s a strong chance they go DT. Again, this is the Raiders, man. They could do anything because their logic is, um, flawed.
March 28th, 2008 at 10:00 am
32. Adam Says:

Dave, Merlin, that’s the way you respond when you don’t like what someone’s saying. Thanks. And, yes, this is an exercise of some sorts, but who’s to say that it couldn’t happen.

Listen people, there are seven elite players in this draft. Any of those players could go anywhere in the top five and it would not be a shocker to me at all. The Rams and Raiders aren’t likely to go Matt Ryan, but other than that anything can happen.

If anyone disagrees with me they don’t remember Reggie Bush slipping to two, Brady Quinn slipping to 22, Adrian Peterson slipping to seven, etc…and they also don’t realize how much can change in the next month and even on draft day.
March 28th, 2008 at 10:04 am
33. Dave Says:

Can a Hear an Amen – AMEN

Get em Adam

First people complain that we talk about the same stuff everyday – then when you throw out a new situation it’s “what the hell”
March 28th, 2008 at 10:06 am
34. Adam Says:

Lol…it’s all in good fun. Well, except with Gholsten who threatened to kill me. That’s way over the line.

It just boggles my mind. There is no way to predict the draft. I try to think outside the box for the fans benefit, and get slammed for it? I just want fans to honestly think about the possibility of Jake, Matt Ryan and Sedrick all being gone and us not wanting to reach. We also could pass on Dorsey. I think he’s healthy and tough, and will be fine. But after Ryan Sims will we take a chance? Especially with Tank and Turk on the roster? Why would we reach after disasters like Junior Siavii?

I’m done commenting on this one. Everything else will be answered on TP3. Well, I will reply if there is more mud slung at me or the site, but that’s it.

Thanks for reading, everybody (besides Gholsten!)…
March 28th, 2008 at 10:12 am
35. Dave Says:

By the way Adam – who is your seven

1 C. Long
2 J. Long
3 Dorsey
4 Ellis
5 McFadden
6 Gholston
7 Brohm
March 28th, 2008 at 10:13 am
36. Dave Says:

March 28th, 2008 at 10:14 am
37. Adam Says:

Comments aren’t posting right now. I think we broke it…

My seven is your seven with a real QB, Matt Ryan, taking the place of that 6-6 choker Brian Brohm. Can the guy win without Petrino? LOL…the order is also different:

1. Matt Ryan
2. Darren McFadden
3. Jake Long
4. Vernon Gholsten
5. Glenn Dorsey/Sedrick Ellis (tie)
7. Chris Long
March 28th, 2008 at 10:26 am
38. Dave Says:

My real top 7 is:

McFadden
J Long
Dorsey
C Long
Ellis
Gholston

and then probably Mendenhall
March 28th, 2008 at 10:35 am
39. Adam Says:

I actually like Stewart better than Mendenhall, but Zach agrees with you. Matt Mosley actually thinks Stewart will be better than Run DMC. I don’t agree, but see his logic. Run DMC is more of a Reggie Bush guy than a prototypical RB. Anyway, Rashard can play, and has limited mileage on his tires, a la Larry Johnson out of Penn St.
March 28th, 2008 at 10:46 am
40. ComeSackMyQB Says:

well adam..i guess they’re lucky..i was sleepin..lol..you handled yourself great anyways..you know i got your back m.c cataract..lol..
March 28th, 2008 at 10:47 am
41. Adam Says:

Thanks, CSMYQ!
March 28th, 2008 at 10:59 am
42. Jeremy (Riverside, CA) Says:

Wow, what a crazy comment thread! Everyone chill out!! I like the mock for the simple fact that it makes us really think about all possibilities. I would intitially say that we would not take a RB with our first pick, because Larry’s atitude would go sour if we did. But let’s face it, if Mcfadden is there, we could take him. We did it before when we took Larry and had Priest on board coming off an injury. Larry is coming off an injury, and RB is the most important option in Herm’s offense. So it could happen. Thanks for making us think about it. At this point, I think we do well with the 5th pick no matter what we do. I really beleive that. Only time will tell. Chill on the physical threats, please. They are not welcomed here.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:13 am
43. KCMizzou Says:

I drunken posted Adam. My apologies.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:25 am
44. Jeremy (Riverside, CA) Says:

LOL KCMizzou!
March 28th, 2008 at 11:36 am
45. Adam Says:

LOL…apology accepted. I was just giving you a little flak back. I can take the smack, but I’ll also always give it back. Don’t drunk dial–drunk blog comment! I love it. Mizzou just won a few cool points back.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:39 am
46. bigchief13 Says:

Just out of curiosity, what would the salary difference be between an RB picked at #27 (LJ), and one picked at #5. I’m thinking it would be a substantial difference, which may be one of the reasons it was possible to draft LJ while we still had Priest. Now having one of the highest paid backs already and then having to pay out a boat load for a #5 RB, can we really afford to do that? I mean sure we have cap room, but we still have to sign a bunch of other guys to fill the plethora of holes we have. And say we do have both running backs and we make it work financialy, what are they going to do behind one of the worst o-lines in the league? Unless that o-line is fixed i wouldn’t see us getting much return on our investment even if it is DMC. You can bring up Purple Jesus, but look at his o-line. Probably the best in the league.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:41 am
47. Jeremy (Riverside, CA) Says:

Good point BigChief13! But anything can happen.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:47 am
48. Adam Says:

BC13, again, those issues will be addressed in TB3.

And this Bud’s for you, Gholsten:

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/columnists.nsf/bryanburwell/story/287F11A5429A63658625741A0014D1CD?OpenDocument

The Rams might indeed go Dorsey.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
49. Double D Says:

Just a few comments for now.

1) It’s just as likely that the Pats will pick an OT as opposed to a CB.

2) It comes as complete news to me that Carl Peterson is also in charge of picking for the Ravens this year because there’s clearly no other explanation for them using their first pick to bring on yet another rookie OT.

3) I can live with taking DMC if the idea is to either start him as our newest LT or trade him for high picks and/or somebody else’s starting LT – otherwise we’re screwed. DMC will be expensive, has character concerns and frankly will probably just end up being the next great RB messiah whose career will be done (for one reason or another) after 2 or 3 seasons.

Beyond that, I’ll just have to withhold further comment/judgment until I see the new blueprint.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
50. g.l. Says:

Mock drafts inspire fans to think by their very nature. Bravo, Adam, I personally think this scenario has inspired much thought. Although some of the thought was perhaps a little on the lunatic side, it definitely woke folks up. Since you wrote this, I have been thinking about it, and if the Chiefs are going to be a run it up the gut, three yards in a cloud of dust team, why not? Chan’s talent seems to be running the football at the expense of the pass. It would make a certain kind of sense to draft Darren McFadden here, and then concentrate on o-linemen, cornerbacks, etc. on down the line in the draft. Pound them with LJ, and then pound them with RunDMC!!!! I am not a power running game person, but I can see definite advantages to that. Good post.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
51. BA Says:

So I want to make just a few comments:

1) Leave the stupid threats, and meat-headed “real mock draft” comments off of this blog. If you aren’t articulate enough to explain why you don’t like this particular mock-up or why yours is better, stay off the blog because you contribute nothing to this dialogue.

2) BigChief13-Thank you for finally pointing out the Vikes’ O-line. Adam, they went out and acquired Hutchinson, Richardson, and the rest of that O-line before they drafted AD. You can’t defend the decision to draft Run DMC using the vikings as an example and ignore those that say O-line first, because that is exactly what the vikings did. But apparently you will address that soon, so I will wait.

3) Has everyone given up on the possibility that the Chiefs trade down if the player/s we want aren’t available at #5? I know that everyone is saying that no team is looking to trade up, but I think that is naive. Knowing the Chiefs OL situation and knowing they probably don’t want to reach down for an Otah (who is missing from your draft board) or a Clady and pay them that kind of money, surely some enterprising owner/gm might throw an offer at the Chiefs in order to get McFadden. He is the 2nd all-time leading rusher in the SEC. If our options become limited to reaching for a Clady/Otah, taking a stud in a position that we are completely stacked at and leaving three other positions in terrible shape, or taking a deal that might not be as good as we would get in other years and moving down in the first round for some extra draft picks this year or next……I like the latter option. Just throwing it out there.

4) I agree with all those people that say we take Chris Long in this situation over McFadden, although I also don’t think he will be there. He is versatile and whether he used at DE or LB, our pass rush will be one of the most formidable in the NFL, and after watching the Superbowl I think we can all agree that is a very good thing in this league right now.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
52. BA Says:

I swear I didn’t mean for my last comment to be that long.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
53. CWebb Says:

I feel stupid, because I’ve really always wanted to take Jake Long, more than anything, and I’ve laughed at the others who say different. After all, I feel that we’ve complained about linemen all season long, and to now talk about needing a QB and WRs and these others… it’s a letdown.

My point is this–since we won’t get Long, I am officially endorsing to either trade the pick or, honestly, to take DMC. The league is moving in a direction where 2 RBs is just the way to be, and having a pounder and a speeder might be just what our offense needs to spice it up. Herm’s always going to favor running, anyways, so why not build up a stable of ‘em?

-cw
March 28th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
54. xxxlp Says:

Don’t worry BA, that happens to me all the time. I swear I don’t want my comments to be longer than any other 3 comments combined, but it happens. OK, down to business. Darren, Darren, Darren. I don’t think we take him. Or rather, I don’t think we SHOULD. He’s a scat-back.. We could use him on special teams to great advantage… That’s about it. Everyone’s on our O-line about not blocking for crap for a powerful back like LJ that will break more than a few tackles all by his lonesome… Well D-Mac just doesn’t break tackles. I’ve watched a few games of his, and seen the highlights on ESPN and the NFL network; but the kid doesn’t break tackles. If he can’t run over you, then he will try to run around you. Sorry to say, but the NFL is in a class of its own as far as intelligence of football players, and physical prowess. He won’t be able to run over defenders like he did in the NCAA. In our offense especially, where we can’t even get holes for a bruiser like Larry, who has some speed of his own, btw. He had what, one run over 25 yards last year? D-Mac won’t do much better, because instead of hitting the hole and trying to get a few, he’ll bounce it out and try for the homerun. But a point I’d like to bring up, the AFC West has one of the fastest overall corps of linebackers, and defenses as a whole, in the NFL. How many times last year did we try a toss, a veer, a pitch? How many times did they actually work? Like 3 times… The linebackers and ends in our division are some of the best in the league. D-Mac wouldn’t be able to do anything. And by the way, just as a sidenote on the Kolby Smith thing.. We all saw how LJ struggled this year.. His numbers, prior to being injured, were about 1/3 his normal amount, if that.. I’m being generous here. So logically, we can scale up everyone’s numbers by 3. If you take Kolby’s stats X 3, you get a healthy, respectable chunk of yardage, and also quite a bit of TD’s considering LJ was a TD Hog these last few seasons on the ground. He’s a decent backup back. We just need to see more of him in an offense that isn’t predictable. One thing noone talks about in this draft is a kicker. We need to do something, either trade one of our picks for a team’s already proven kicker, or draft another one. But I doubt they do that after the Medlock ordeal.. We need to fix that. Noone ever speaks about it, but to me that’s a glaring, huge, gaping hole on our team. Herm wants to play these close games that are decided at the end? Then get us a clutch kicker Herm. I don’t care who we get.. As long as we get SOMEONE. What we currently have on our team just ain’t gonna cut it.
March 28th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
55. Crane Says:

Adam-

You stole my, “Face.” I will be expecting a royalty check.
March 28th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
56. Gholston Says:

Id rather deep throat sand paper than read your articles
March 28th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
57. Dave Says:

then why are you still here?
March 28th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
58. stevenh Says:

I dare say the Chiefs would take Chris Long or Gholston long before McFadden. Again, I have to disagree with calling Matt Ryan “elite” come on, really, what has he done to be called “elite” throw a lot of picks his senior year?????
March 28th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
59. Cisp Says:

Dave, what do you think the chiefs record will be next season? Where are our biggest needs? In what order do you think we will draft them?
March 28th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
60. Dave Says:

Not sure why you care what I think?
March 28th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
61. Dave Says:

Cisp – I don’t want it to look like I am avoiding you or your questions

I am done at work and headed home – like anyone else I have plans for the night so I am not going to be on much

I don’t mind answering the questions at a different time – just think that was a little random to single me out and ask when I have never seen a post from you before

If you really want an answer from me tell me why you care – if its legit, sure I will tell you

again – don’t know why you care

I am just a newbie here

you should be asking Adam/Zach/Stevenh/Crane
March 28th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
62. ComeSackMyQB Says:

where’s adam at anyways..we been waitin for TB3 all day
March 28th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
63. ComeSackMyQB Says:

I hear the Chiefs have a lot of money left under the salary cap, maybe more than any other team in the league. What are they saving it for?

Jared Allen for one. If they were able to work out a deal for him, they would need a healthy bundle to pay him. They will also have at least 10 draft choices and those don’t come cheap these days, especially the fifth pick in the first round.

Also, with the signing in free agency of Casey Wiegmann (Denver), Kris Wilson (Philadelphia), Benny Sapp (Minnesota), Keyaron Fox (Pittsburgh) and Jimmy Wilkerson (Tampa Bay), they should pick up at least one, maybe two compensation picks.

Because they have spots on the roster to fill, the Chiefs figure to be very active in the post-Draft market for college free agents. Those cost money as well.

Also, expect the Chiefs to work hard to sign some of their young talent to new contracts before the reach free agency.

That money will get spent. If there’s one thing the Chiefs have not been deficient in over the last 10 years it’s managing the salary cap. They are among the best in the business.

this came off kcchiefs.com
March 28th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
64. Adam Says:

TB3 is not coming out today, and I never said it was I said this weekend. It will drop before 11:59 pm Sunday, I can promise that.
March 28th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
65. Adam Says:

Crane, I actually stole “face” from Zach a long time ago.

Steven, as for what makes Matt Ryan elite? Oh, hell, I don’t know? Maybe winning 10 games two years in a row in the ACC despite not playing with elite talent. Maybe going 27-6 (I think, either that or 26-6) as a starter in one of the NCAA’s top conference. Maybe having everyone from Kiper to King to McShay saying he’s elite. Come on, we know you want Jake Long, but give Ryan some credit where credit is due.

Gholsten, I have some sandpaper. That can be arranged. And keep coming back and padding our traffic totals

Cisp, biggest needs: QB, T, G, CB, C, No. 2 WR, C and DT. Projected record: 6-10, possibly worse, but not much better. Not possible. Who knows about the draft order, but we’ll definitely draft two O-lineman in the first four rounds.

Everything else I saw can wait for TB3.
March 28th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
66. jason Says:

adam in #30 you said that DRC was going too late
#9 So is it SUCH a REACH to just get him at #5? PLEASE dont talk in circles
March 28th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
67. cd Says:

Does anyone have any updates on J Allen and his contract extension talk. I can definately see us taking a DE if the Cheaps don’t sign him long term.
March 28th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
68. ROC27 Says:

Well, it may seem like I’m late to the party, but really, I’ve been here. Just reading what everyone has to say… 1st of all… Gholston, youre an idiot… Go away. Next, I love this mock draft. Not cause this is what I would WANT, but because (as everyone has already said) we need to think possibilities, which is what I’m all about… So many people here claim “he’ll be gone”, “we wont take him”, “we’ll take him”, “he’ll be there”, BLAH BLAH BLAH! But REALLY NO ONE KNOWS. So, lets think possibilities. If we take DMC, how can we utilize him? (Punt & kick returns, 2nd RB in the back field next to LJ, which is another threat to defenses, and a 3rd down RB to give LJ a breather.) Now, what if we take Gholston or Chris Long? Then we have ourselves a guy who we can put at any end. Imagine if we put Chris Long next to Jared Allen (on the outside)?? That would be utter chaos for offensive coaches, QBs, and LTs. Or what if we take Gholston, move Tamba Hali to the inside and Gholston to End?? Then we have ourselves a hell of a line… Then what if we take Dorsey or Ellis? Then again… we’ll have one of the most destructive D-Lines in the NFL. Now, Matt Ryan… I’m not one of the dudes who think we should or even will take Matt Ryan at 5, but if it DOES happen, what great competition between him and Brodie. And either way, whoever wins after Training Camp, we’ll have a decent if not good backup QB (preferably Matt Ryan after Croyle gets injured like always)…. So c’mon guys… At 5, we’ve got HUGE advantage cause we’d be grabbing an elite player that (no matter who it is) will be making our team better. (Lets not forget a possible trade down)
March 28th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
69. jason Says:

ROC, Tamba to DT??? i dont see it because teams RUN right at him. i remember seeing some quote from an afc official saying that their gameplan was to run at tamba, run at tamba, run at tamba. i dont think him at Dt is a good idea. (don’t remember where i read it probably here)
March 28th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
70. Dave Says:

Roc27 – what’s up man

I have been missing the Roc smack, wondering where you have been and then I find out you have been just staying silent – come on, its always good to hear from you

I don’t know your thoughts on Brohm – drop a thought pro or con
March 28th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
71. Adam Says:

Jason, when there are seven elite players in the draft and you draft fifth, not taking one of the seven elites is a reach. Period. Maybe you are thinking in circles? I’ll address Tamba to DT, Jared’s contract and everything else in TB3…let the anticipation build…
March 28th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
72. ROC27 Says:

Dave! My Wing Man… Whats good, bro? Thanks for the comp, man. Nah, I’m just kinda getting ready for the draft and 2nd wave of Free Agency. It’s wierd, ya know? Sometimes I find myself repeating a lot of the things I’ve said before. And it gets annoying after while. I’m also just waiting til something comes up for me to take the time to comment about. I’m here everyday, so if you need that back-up (you know we see most things eye to eye), just holler… For the most part though, I like what YOURE saying and a few others…. So, Dorsey looked GREAT out there on his Pro-Day. And solidifies just why I would take him over Ellis. Not to take anything away from Sedrick, but I just like Dorsey. He’s the next Warren Sapp and will be such a dominant force for years to come. His injury concern has been laid to rest… So, if Jake, is gone… I’m pushing for Glenn Dorsey. . . As for Brian Brohm, I like him a lot. And actually, a lot more than Mr.Matty Ice… (sorry Adam). You know, I would go out on a limb and hope he’s there in the early 2nd, but that may not be the case… and PLUS… Its so hard to say what we SHOULD even pick in the 2nd round… I mean, a O-Lineman would make all the sense in the world (especially if we miss out on Jake Long). So, I would say Sam Baker. He’d be a cold blooded Chief… But then if Mario Manningham IS there, I would LOVE to pick him up as well. I’m not sold on our WR corps. It just hasnt clicked to me. Its like, “Herm! Dont sell me bullsh*t! Cause I know the prices!”. I think Manningham would be the solid #2 WR in our starting lineup… Then we would need to really consider a CB. But maybe we can get Chevis Jackson (CB LSU 6′ 184lbs… Maybe he can gain a few pounds, but I really like this kid. And he has great awareness. Ive been campaigning for this guy for a while already). From here, I really wanna use our 4th round pick on FB Owen SCHMITTY!! and any other picks we can use on O-Lineman, and DBs, maybe one QB like Chad Henne or whatever….
March 29th, 2008 at 1:14 am
73. ROC27 Says:

Oh and FUN FACT guys; I went to school with USC’s Chilo Rachal!! He played with me on our Freshmen Football team at Whittier High School, then left for Cal-Hi. (trader) I never knew he went to USC…until I was watching the Combine and I see this very familiar big kid, running the 40 and his name pops us “Chilo Rachal #66 USC OL” and I was like “HOLY SH*T!!! THATS CHILO!!!” He was a great football player and did a lot for our team, while he was there. I was CB and I got to see him play every snap, with him being an OG. The only thing about Chilo that I remember is that he was a HUGE trouble maker and VERY immature. I think I heard Mike Mayock say the same thing (as far as him being immature.)But it was funny to see him on the NFL freakin’ Network. It would be even funnier and SO ironic if KC takes him with a late 2nd day pick. Wow. Chilo Rachal on MY favorite team… I better find his number and rekindle a frienship… Hey, you never know.
March 29th, 2008 at 1:23 am
74. ROC27 Says:

And Dave… a little more that I like about Brohm (if I left you with an unsatisfying answer)… 6,751 passing yards, 41 TDs, 11 300 passing yard games!… Thats pretty good. And I DO like his size (6′4 224 lbs) Gosh, he’s huge. I would like to take him… I just dont know the real chances that we would with other pressing needs, ya’know?
March 29th, 2008 at 1:28 am
75. Dave Says:

ROC27 – burning that midnight oil huh

I have complete faith that the Chiefs won’t reach in the first round – it’s the 2nd round pick that is going to be the tough one.

I am so glad to hear someone else say Manningham in the 2nd if there. All I keep hearing is OT/G/CB – well I would have a hard time passing on some of those WR’s. Kelly/Jackson/Sweed/Hardy/Manningham/Doucet/Thomas

Someone is going to be there – any of them would look good next to Bowe as our #2

But I guess thats because I am not sold on Darling like some here.

As for Dorsey – I love this guy and I was really hoping everyone was going to sleep on him because of injury concerns….maybe they still will? All he proved so far is that he is in football shape “now” – everyones Doctors will decide if he will have lingering problems years down the Road!

Still wishing for Jake Long – prob not going to happen though

Good stuff on Chilo – you never know….crazier things have happened….Maybe he goes to us in the 3rd/4th

Lastly – On the Brohm thing….I have really tried to be “politically correct” as the new guy here…..but to be truthful…I don’t like Ryan at all…..I know I am not a scout – and I am not going to even try, but side by side it’s not even close to me…..Man someone is going to get lucky if Brohm falls to the 2nd round….I think they should do a post here that reads “For the Record or Call your own shot”……Well for the record – I think Brohm is the Best QB in the Draft and he will turn around a Franchise.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:15 am
76. bigchief13 Says:

Dave, I agree with you on Brohm, and by the sounds of it most people on here do. Dorsey would be awsome but if teams ahead of us do “fall asleep” on him, I’m not sure I trust the chiefs to not fall asleep as well. The two guys they have expressed real interest in have been Ryan and Otah, both of who I would hate at #5. As for WR, I love Devin Thomas, Adam’s mock is the highest I’ve seen him go in a mock this year, in most he makes it to RD 2. Currently my wish list for the #5 spot would be: J. Long, Dorsey, C. Long, Ellis, then either Gholston or trade down. Anything else in that spot would be a bit disappointion for me.
March 29th, 2008 at 10:57 am
77. Adam Says:

Devin Thomas is rising more than any WR right now, with Kelly and Sweed dropping. Chilo, I believe, is on Kiper’s Big Board and will at worst be a second-round selection. And why all the continued Ryan hating? With equal talent–and, personally, I think Brohm had better talent–in an equal conference, on guy won, the other guy lost. The winner was Ryan. Plus, he’s bigger, just as smart (same Wonderlic–32) and has better intangibles.

I just don’t understand. I think it’s just that we as fans live in dream worlds sometimes. We want to believe that we can get as good of a QB at 36 as we can at five. No way. Not at that position. Not without some once-in-a-blue-moon Tom Brady/Tony Romo luck.
March 29th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
78. bigchief13 Says:

It’s a team sport and it’s the team not the QB that wins or loses. I’m a bit tired of people arguing that Ryan didn’t have an elite supporting cast. If you have a team of good payers who gell and play as a team you can win games. You don’t need TO’s and Chad Johnsons to win. Sure the QB plays a major roll but between Brohm and Ryan, they both played good. Ryan’s TEAM won, Brohm’s TEAM didn’t. On a side note: Adam, I really dig how you put Thomas at #11, I think he’s the best WR in this class.
March 29th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
79. Crane Says:

McFadden would be a good fit and I will tell you why.

Remember how ferocious LJ came out of the gates after the diaper comment and sitting on the bench behind Priest, etc? Those things all really burned his ass. If I was Herm I would draft McFadden on LJ incentive alone. It appears that LJ needs that competition to ignite his fire. I didn’t see the same LJ (noted our line sucked) running with authority; except the game he spiked the flag in the endzone. The only thing that could sqaush this whole theory is that LJ was playing to get paid and nothing will bring the old LJ back. LJ will be 30 soon. That’s when we start leading RBs out to pasture.

My draft preference would be 1. Jake Long 2. Chris Long 3. McFadden – then pick up Brohm with our next pick. I’m not on the Ryan Wagon. I could also see us trading the pick to Dallas, I wonder if they would return T New to his old stomping grounds and give us their 1st rounder this year and next year.
March 29th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
80. Crane Says:

Additionally, he could be our KR, PR and 2rd QB filling several spots and allowing for more hogs on the team.
March 29th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
81. bigchief13 Says:

I think LJ needs an O-Line to light his fire. It’s hard to run with authority when you can’t get out of the backfield. I think cometition is good for him, but I see both of them getting staight up mugged if next year is anything like last.
March 29th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
82. jason Says:

i agree on the oline front we have to get some help
just if long’s gone i dont know if dmac is the guy
March 29th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
83. Phillip the Falcon Says:

dumb mock draft…..the first two picks are “possible” – Falcons are not taking Matt Ryan- no way!…..if Dorsey/Jake Long are gone, Falcons will try and deal down w/ Raiders/Jets – the pick will be up for auction to whomever wants D-Mac. If nobody antes up, Falcons would probably just take Sedrick Ellis….
March 30th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
84. Jesse Says:

Heres what I see happening. 1st Carl is waiting to see if Gohlston is available at #5, if he is then Jared Allen is off to Philly for there 1st pick and Lito Shepard. Then we pick Gholston with the #5 and then Branden Albert (A Will Shields clone) with the 1st that we aquired from Philly. In the 2nd we take Early Doucett (praying that he is still there). In the 3rd round finaly address Tackle or center and get a good one with Collins if he is still there but if not take Sullivan.

1.Vernon Gohlston (DE)aka one bad ass brother
2.(via trade with Philly) 19th pick Branden Albert (G)+ acquiring Lito Shepard (DB)at corner
3.(2nd round) Early Doucett (WR)(Bowe and Doucett-WOW!)
4.(3rd round) John Sullivan (C)(Tim Grunhard clone)
5.(4th round) Oneil Cousins (T)
6.(5th round) Owen Schmitt (FB)bad ass full back

Im not one to put all my money on tackles in the first round, this draft has so many. We need star power on this team badly, and with the names ive put up there we would be well on our way
March 31st, 2008 at 2:58 pm
85. jason Says:

now ill go with that just put lito out there yesterday
March 31st, 2008 at 3:04 pm