Arrowhead Addict’s Pre-TB3 Mock
I’ve already gotten a lot of flak on this mock, so I wanted to make an introductory statement. (By the way, both flak or smack are totally cool. But, remember, if you fire at us over here at A.A., you better duck and yell “incoming.” :))
Yes, this is an exercise of some sorts, leading up to “The Blueprint 3.” But who’s to say that it couldn’t happen. I want to give Chiefs fans different looks and prepare them for every scenario, that way they aren’t shocked on draft day.
Listen people, there are seven elite players in this draft. Any of those players could go anywhere in the top five and it would not be a shocker to me at all. The Rams and Raiders aren’t likely to go Matt Ryan, but other than that anything can happen. Any team in the top five could draft Jake Long. Ditto with the DTs. There’s been a trend of teams who already have a franchise running back drafting another one in the top ten. Run DMC could go anywhere in the top seven. Same with the defensive ends, even though I think we would pass on either. A CB could move up, maybe Dominique Rogers-Cromartie or Leodis McKelvin. Hell, maybe some team reaches for Chris Williams or Ryan Clady. Could happen.
Look at last year: Ted Ginn? Purple Jesus? Brady Quinn? Did anyone predict any of those? No.
If you don’t have an open mind and ponder every possible scenario, the draft can and will shock you. Guaranteed. That being said, let’s get started, folks…
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1. Miami Dolphins - OT Jake Long, Michigan
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2. St. Louis Rams - DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU
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3. Atlanta Falcons - QB Matt Ryan, Boston College
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4. Oakland Raiders - DT Sedrick Ellis, USC
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5. Kansas City Chiefs - RB Darren McFadden, Arkansas
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6. New York Jets - DE Chris Long, Virginia |
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7. New England Patriots (From 49ers) - DE Vernon Gholsten |
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8. Baltimore Ravens - OT Ryan Clady, Boise St. |
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9. Cincinnati Bengals - CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Tenn. St. |
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10. New Orleans Saints - OLB Keith Rivers, USC |
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11. Buffalo Bills - WR Devin Thomas, Michigan State |
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12. Denver Broncos - OT Chris Williams, Vanderbilt |
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13. Carolina Panthers - RB Rashard Mendenhall, Illinois |
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14. Chicago Bears - RB Jonathan Stewart, Oregon |
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15. Detroit Lions - CB Leodis McKelvin, Troy |
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16. Arizona Cardinals - CB Mike Jenkins, South Florida |
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17. Minnesota Vikings - DE Derrick Harvey, Florida |
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18. Houston Texans - RB Felix Jones, Arkansa |
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19. Philadelphia Eagles - WR Limas Sweed, Oklahoma |
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20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - WR DeSean Jackson, Cal |
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21. Washington Redskins - WR James Hardy, Indiana |
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22. Dallas Cowboys (From Browns) - CB Aqib Talib, Kansas |
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23. Pittsburgh Steelers - G Branden Albert, Virginia |
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24. Tennessee Titans - WR Early Doucet, LSU |
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25. Seattle Seahawks - OT Sam Baker, USC |
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26. Jacksonville Jaguars - DE Phillip Merling, Clemson |
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27. San Diego Chargers - CB Antoine Cason, Arizona |
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28. Dallas Cowboys - WR Malcolm Kelly, Oklahoma |
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29. San Francisco 49ers (From Colts) - DE/OLB Quentin Groves, Auburn |
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30. Green Bay Packers - S Kenny Phillips, Miami |
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FORFEITED |
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31. New York Giants - DT Pat Sims, Auburn |
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There is no way both Chris Long and Vernon fall out of top 5… I agree that BPA must be taken but a DT will be available.
March 27th, 2008 at 8:35 pmi dont think either one will fall out and if they do..can we really pass on long..or gholsten for that matter…but as bad as we need o linemen right now can you really call anything a reach..if you grab someone who might be at the 10 spot or a lil lower..maybe alil higher..can you really call that a reach when you need that person..when you need that position..
March 27th, 2008 at 8:47 pmI am so glad you put this scenario up
It seems like we have all settled on to a favorite player - well what do we do if all of them are taken
I totally agree that if all of the players are gone that we are targeting and no one is willing to trade up to our spot…..You HAVE to take the BEST PLAYER on the board!
In this case it is DMAC - I know we don’t need him, but we are better off with him than to reach.
March 27th, 2008 at 8:55 pmdont get me wrong..i was the one who in the beginning was all for tryin to work out a deal for LJ and draftin DMAC but i dont think we draft him and keep both…well..if we pick him up and we keep him and LJ then we are definately stickin it out with Croyle which i dont really mind either..but somewhere in this draft we need linemen..
March 27th, 2008 at 9:00 pmyou can still draft a great Tackle in the 2nd round and a great Guard/Center in the 3rd
the point here is you don’t waste your top 5 pick
If your top guys in the need position are gone you don’t reach, but rather take the gift that is there called McFadden
March 27th, 2008 at 9:06 pmmaybe this is why the chiefs are saving up so much cap space
March 27th, 2008 at 9:08 pmi hear ya..imagine that one two punch…sweetness
March 27th, 2008 at 9:10 pmIt doesn’t matter what the position it is - the #5 spot is going to be expensive no matter what(but we have plenty of money)…..I hear what you are saying though
and yes - that would be a unbelievable one two punch
but I remind everyone that I think this is only the last resort….if Jake Long or Dorsey or Ellis are there I think we take them instead
But by all means draft the Stud if he is our best option - it worked out great when we took LJ with Priest on the team
March 27th, 2008 at 9:18 pmI WANT EVERYONE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBER 24 PICK AND THEN AT THE 28 PICK, WHAT DO YOU SEE????
March 27th, 2008 at 9:30 pmsoo the man is pullin double duty…lol..yea he messed up..we arent worried bout those picks anyways..they arent ours
March 27th, 2008 at 9:31 pmAdam: In the age of the Salary Cap you are going draft Run DMC and tie up that much money in the RB position???? I see this even less than I see your ‘draft Matt Ryan idea’.
March 27th, 2008 at 9:34 pmI am going to totally stick up for Adam on this one
Is it alot of money for the RB position - yes
but we can afford it - especially when you consider the “new philosophy” of taking young players instead of over priced vets.
that would be money well spend - no questions asked
March 27th, 2008 at 9:41 pmuntil 26 days from now..everything is debatable..nothing is taboo…we all know how crazy the s**t can get on draft day so right now im just gonna put it out there that almost anything..and i mean anything would do us better than we did us last yr…we all have our own little senario we would like to see play out..some are more realistic than others..but when it comes down to it..we never know what to expect outta our g.m…
March 27th, 2008 at 9:42 pmplayaction. I couldn’t disagree with you more. With all the holes on this team, we should not add him to a RB mix that already includes LJ and Kolby Smith. RB is not our problem.
March 27th, 2008 at 9:47 pmOf coarse its not the problem - O Line is the problem…but you can still take care of it
Cornerback is a problem….you can still take care of it
the draft is not over if you take him….rather it has just started and you started it with the best player in the Frikin draft
again I say that this is last resort for me - I want J Long/Dorsey/Ellis or a trade down before this even becomes an issue
March 27th, 2008 at 9:53 pmComeSackMyQB, if you pick in the elite-player range and don’t get an elite player, yes, you are reaching.
Czar, the two DTs could easily be gone, especially with Dorsey back in business.
March 27th, 2008 at 10:18 pmWe have a ton of cap room, Merlin, and if we are given this gift and DEs as our options we would be stupid not to take it. Look what drafting Peterson even though they had a ton of cash tied up in Chester Taylor did for the Vikes. If we have that gift there and nothing else that really works that isn’t a reach, we have to do it. Kolby Smith should never keep a team from adding a Run DMC, not with his average talent and small salary. You can go and get a T and a G in the next two rounds.
Already a ton of comments, but I’ll answer everything in TB3.
March 27th, 2008 at 10:22 pmi get ya adam..i got ya as soon as i posted..spit it out before i really thought..anyways..i think as far as top 5 talent goes..ill be happy with any of them
March 27th, 2008 at 10:34 pmI say you take Chris Long and move Hali inside or put Long at outside linebacker, or trade allen. I just think we could use Long more than McFadden, but just one mans opinion.
March 27th, 2008 at 10:44 pmTrade our 1st round pick this year for Miami’s 1st round pick next year. You know they will be in the top 5 again.
March 27th, 2008 at 11:20 pmWTF…what kinda point would that serve…then what..
March 28th, 2008 at 12:30 amThis mock is flawed. There’s no way the Raiders take Sedrick Ellis after giving 40 million to Tommy Kelley.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:47 amThis is probably the worst mock I’ve seen. Garbage.
March 28th, 2008 at 4:56 amI do not think Chris Long will make it to us, and if he does, I think he’d be the smart pick. As Clinton says, you can move him around, he does not nessesarily have to play end. This is all just banter though since he’s going #1 to Miami. The one thing I’m concerned about is that the Falcon’s will be smart enough not to draft Ryan. They have been saying that they like the QB situation in RD 2, and I can’t blame them. Also, it wouldn’t blow my mind if Al Davis pulls a stunt and drafts DMC. He’s gotta be drooling a little more than usual when he sees DMC is available at #4. The guy is a bone head.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:33 amHerm Edwards/KCMizzou you are missing the point.
this is not a real mock draft - I don’t expect it to go this way either
the point is to show us in a worst case scenario do you reach for a Otah/Clady, reach for a Cornerback like DRC/Talib, reach for a Brian Brohm…..
or do you take the best athlete/football player which in this case would be Darren Kick everyones A$$ McFadden.
I am going on record saying that you take the top player - so give the man a break and see this for what it realy is
March 28th, 2008 at 8:49 amI will kill you if you make another mock this pitiful. Nobody is going to take Dorsey with a top 3 pick when he has major injury concerns. The Dolphins will take Chris Long, Rams will take Vernon Gholston, Falcons will take Jake Long, Raiders will take DMAC, and Chiefs will then take Dorsey or Ellis. Get it together AA.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:49 amGo to this link and their is a real mock draft… http://condraft.com/mocks/member-mocks/?id=4881
March 28th, 2008 at 8:51 amHey Gholston or should I say Herm Edwards
my last post goes to you too
March 28th, 2008 at 8:55 amGholston: I don’t like Adam’s mock and I think he is way, way off. However, how about toning down the rhetoric? “I will kill you”, ‘nobody is going to take” how about leaving yourself some wiggle room?
March 28th, 2008 at 9:36 amGholsten, don’t think you’re a little biased, do you? Don’t know what gave me that idea…maybe your name? Anyway, this is going to be a commenter execution. I’ve warned commenters before about coming at me or the site with that kind of smack, so you’re done.
First off, that isn’t a real draft, buddy. Kenny Phillips and Malcolm “Bum Knees” Kelly go way too high, and DRC goes way too late, for starters. Besides, every draft has Chris Long going first. Why? Is he better than Jake Long? No. Has The Tuna actually tipped his hand anything? No.
As for Gholsten vs. Dorsey, a dipshit like you probably doesn’t check the news everyday, but those injury concerns were put to bed yesterday after Dorsey’s Pro Day. Besides, the Rams already have Carriker and Little and don’t really need Gholsten. You’re probably just some “pitiful” OSU fan mad that the Tigers brought it to your Buckeyes in the National Championship.
Looks like you are the one who needs to get it together. Face.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:53 amAfter waking up to a bunch of little girls talking smack on my mock, I’ve decide that commenters will continue to get lit up like Jason Belser in coverage…
KCMizzou, coming from a Mizzou fan that’s a compliment. Send me your own mock and I’ll feature it. I’m serious. We’ll see if yours is “garbage” or not. E-mail it to me at arrowheadaddict@gmail.com. You’re a good commenter and nice guy so I won’t hit you any harder than that, but on A.A. if you sing it you gotta bring it.
Herm Edwards, your brain is flawed, dude. You prove my point for me–the Raiders spent $40 M on Kelly! That’s nuts, so what’s to say they don’t continue down that same path? Also, last time I checked, the 4-3 requires two DTs. Call me crazy, but I think there’s a strong chance they go DT. Again, this is the Raiders, man. They could do anything because their logic is, um, flawed.
March 28th, 2008 at 10:00 amDave, Merlin, that’s the way you respond when you don’t like what someone’s saying. Thanks. And, yes, this is an exercise of some sorts, but who’s to say that it couldn’t happen.
Listen people, there are seven elite players in this draft. Any of those players could go anywhere in the top five and it would not be a shocker to me at all. The Rams and Raiders aren’t likely to go Matt Ryan, but other than that anything can happen.
If anyone disagrees with me they don’t remember Reggie Bush slipping to two, Brady Quinn slipping to 22, Adrian Peterson slipping to seven, etc…and they also don’t realize how much can change in the next month and even on draft day.
March 28th, 2008 at 10:04 amCan a Hear an Amen - AMEN
Get em Adam
First people complain that we talk about the same stuff everyday - then when you throw out a new situation it’s “what the hell”
March 28th, 2008 at 10:06 amLol…it’s all in good fun. Well, except with Gholsten who threatened to kill me. That’s way over the line.
It just boggles my mind. There is no way to predict the draft. I try to think outside the box for the fans benefit, and get slammed for it? I just want fans to honestly think about the possibility of Jake, Matt Ryan and Sedrick all being gone and us not wanting to reach. We also could pass on Dorsey. I think he’s healthy and tough, and will be fine. But after Ryan Sims will we take a chance? Especially with Tank and Turk on the roster? Why would we reach after disasters like Junior Siavii?
I’m done commenting on this one. Everything else will be answered on TP3. Well, I will reply if there is more mud slung at me or the site, but that’s it.
Thanks for reading, everybody (besides Gholsten!)…
March 28th, 2008 at 10:12 amBy the way Adam - who is your seven
1 C. Long
March 28th, 2008 at 10:13 am2 J. Long
3 Dorsey
4 Ellis
5 McFadden
6 Gholston
7 Brohm
March 28th, 2008 at 10:14 amComments aren’t posting right now. I think we broke it…
My seven is your seven with a real QB, Matt Ryan, taking the place of that 6-6 choker Brian Brohm. Can the guy win without Petrino? LOL…the order is also different:
1. Matt Ryan
March 28th, 2008 at 10:26 am2. Darren McFadden
3. Jake Long
4. Vernon Gholsten
5. Glenn Dorsey/Sedrick Ellis (tie)
7. Chris Long
My real top 7 is:
McFadden
J Long
Dorsey
C Long
Ellis
Gholston
and then probably Mendenhall
March 28th, 2008 at 10:35 amI actually like Stewart better than Mendenhall, but Zach agrees with you. Matt Mosley actually thinks Stewart will be better than Run DMC. I don’t agree, but see his logic. Run DMC is more of a Reggie Bush guy than a prototypical RB. Anyway, Rashard can play, and has limited mileage on his tires, a la Larry Johnson out of Penn St.
March 28th, 2008 at 10:46 amwell adam..i guess they’re lucky..i was sleepin..lol..you handled yourself great anyways..you know i got your back m.c cataract..lol..
March 28th, 2008 at 10:47 amThanks, CSMYQ!
March 28th, 2008 at 10:59 amWow, what a crazy comment thread! Everyone chill out!! I like the mock for the simple fact that it makes us really think about all possibilities. I would intitially say that we would not take a RB with our first pick, because Larry’s atitude would go sour if we did. But let’s face it, if Mcfadden is there, we could take him. We did it before when we took Larry and had Priest on board coming off an injury. Larry is coming off an injury, and RB is the most important option in Herm’s offense. So it could happen. Thanks for making us think about it. At this point, I think we do well with the 5th pick no matter what we do. I really beleive that. Only time will tell. Chill on the physical threats, please. They are not welcomed here.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:13 amI drunken posted Adam. My apologies.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:25 amLOL KCMizzou!
March 28th, 2008 at 11:36 amLOL…apology accepted. I was just giving you a little flak back. I can take the smack, but I’ll also always give it back. Don’t drunk dial–drunk blog comment! I love it. Mizzou just won a few cool points back.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:39 amJust out of curiosity, what would the salary difference be between an RB picked at #27 (LJ), and one picked at #5. I’m thinking it would be a substantial difference, which may be one of the reasons it was possible to draft LJ while we still had Priest. Now having one of the highest paid backs already and then having to pay out a boat load for a #5 RB, can we really afford to do that? I mean sure we have cap room, but we still have to sign a bunch of other guys to fill the plethora of holes we have. And say we do have both running backs and we make it work financialy, what are they going to do behind one of the worst o-lines in the league? Unless that o-line is fixed i wouldn’t see us getting much return on our investment even if it is DMC. You can bring up Purple Jesus, but look at his o-line. Probably the best in the league.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:41 amGood point BigChief13! But anything can happen.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:47 amBC13, again, those issues will be addressed in TB3.
And this Bud’s for you, Gholsten:
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/columnists.nsf/bryanburwell/story/287F11A5429A63658625741A0014D1CD?OpenDocument
The Rams might indeed go Dorsey.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:19 pmJust a few comments for now.
1) It’s just as likely that the Pats will pick an OT as opposed to a CB.
2) It comes as complete news to me that Carl Peterson is also in charge of picking for the Ravens this year because there’s clearly no other explanation for them using their first pick to bring on yet another rookie OT.
3) I can live with taking DMC if the idea is to either start him as our newest LT or trade him for high picks and/or somebody else’s starting LT - otherwise we’re screwed. DMC will be expensive, has character concerns and frankly will probably just end up being the next great RB messiah whose career will be done (for one reason or another) after 2 or 3 seasons.
Beyond that, I’ll just have to withhold further comment/judgment until I see the new blueprint.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:28 pmMock drafts inspire fans to think by their very nature. Bravo, Adam, I personally think this scenario has inspired much thought. Although some of the thought was perhaps a little on the lunatic side, it definitely woke folks up. Since you wrote this, I have been thinking about it, and if the Chiefs are going to be a run it up the gut, three yards in a cloud of dust team, why not? Chan’s talent seems to be running the football at the expense of the pass. It would make a certain kind of sense to draft Darren McFadden here, and then concentrate on o-linemen, cornerbacks, etc. on down the line in the draft. Pound them with LJ, and then pound them with RunDMC!!!! I am not a power running game person, but I can see definite advantages to that. Good post.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:57 pmSo I want to make just a few comments:
1) Leave the stupid threats, and meat-headed “real mock draft” comments off of this blog. If you aren’t articulate enough to explain why you don’t like this particular mock-up or why yours is better, stay off the blog because you contribute nothing to this dialogue.
2) BigChief13-Thank you for finally pointing out the Vikes’ O-line. Adam, they went out and acquired Hutchinson, Richardson, and the rest of that O-line before they drafted AD. You can’t defend the decision to draft Run DMC using the vikings as an example and ignore those that say O-line first, because that is exactly what the vikings did. But apparently you will address that soon, so I will wait.
3) Has everyone given up on the possibility that the Chiefs trade down if the player/s we want aren’t available at #5? I know that everyone is saying that no team is looking to trade up, but I think that is naive. Knowing the Chiefs OL situation and knowing they probably don’t want to reach down for an Otah (who is missing from your draft board) or a Clady and pay them that kind of money, surely some enterprising owner/gm might throw an offer at the Chiefs in order to get McFadden. He is the 2nd all-time leading rusher in the SEC. If our options become limited to reaching for a Clady/Otah, taking a stud in a position that we are completely stacked at and leaving three other positions in terrible shape, or taking a deal that might not be as good as we would get in other years and moving down in the first round for some extra draft picks this year or next……I like the latter option. Just throwing it out there.
4) I agree with all those people that say we take Chris Long in this situation over McFadden, although I also don’t think he will be there. He is versatile and whether he used at DE or LB, our pass rush will be one of the most formidable in the NFL, and after watching the Superbowl I think we can all agree that is a very good thing in this league right now.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:29 pmI swear I didn’t mean for my last comment to be that long.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:32 pmI feel stupid, because I’ve really always wanted to take Jake Long, more than anything, and I’ve laughed at the others who say different. After all, I feel that we’ve complained about linemen all season long, and to now talk about needing a QB and WRs and these others… it’s a letdown.
My point is this–since we won’t get Long, I am officially endorsing to either trade the pick or, honestly, to take DMC. The league is moving in a direction where 2 RBs is just the way to be, and having a pounder and a speeder might be just what our offense needs to spice it up. Herm’s always going to favor running, anyways, so why not build up a stable of ‘em?
-cw
March 28th, 2008 at 2:14 pmDon’t worry BA, that happens to me all the time. I swear I don’t want my comments to be longer than any other 3 comments combined, but it happens. OK, down to business. Darren, Darren, Darren. I don’t think we take him. Or rather, I don’t think we SHOULD. He’s a scat-back.. We could use him on special teams to great advantage… That’s about it. Everyone’s on our O-line about not blocking for crap for a powerful back like LJ that will break more than a few tackles all by his lonesome… Well D-Mac just doesn’t break tackles. I’ve watched a few games of his, and seen the highlights on ESPN and the NFL network; but the kid doesn’t break tackles. If he can’t run over you, then he will try to run around you. Sorry to say, but the NFL is in a class of its own as far as intelligence of football players, and physical prowess. He won’t be able to run over defenders like he did in the NCAA. In our offense especially, where we can’t even get holes for a bruiser like Larry, who has some speed of his own, btw. He had what, one run over 25 yards last year? D-Mac won’t do much better, because instead of hitting the hole and trying to get a few, he’ll bounce it out and try for the homerun. But a point I’d like to bring up, the AFC West has one of the fastest overall corps of linebackers, and defenses as a whole, in the NFL. How many times last year did we try a toss, a veer, a pitch? How many times did they actually work? Like 3 times… The linebackers and ends in our division are some of the best in the league. D-Mac wouldn’t be able to do anything. And by the way, just as a sidenote on the Kolby Smith thing.. We all saw how LJ struggled this year.. His numbers, prior to being injured, were about 1/3 his normal amount, if that.. I’m being generous here. So logically, we can scale up everyone’s numbers by 3. If you take Kolby’s stats X 3, you get a healthy, respectable chunk of yardage, and also quite a bit of TD’s considering LJ was a TD Hog these last few seasons on the ground. He’s a decent backup back. We just need to see more of him in an offense that isn’t predictable. One thing noone talks about in this draft is a kicker. We need to do something, either trade one of our picks for a team’s already proven kicker, or draft another one. But I doubt they do that after the Medlock ordeal.. We need to fix that. Noone ever speaks about it, but to me that’s a glaring, huge, gaping hole on our team. Herm wants to play these close games that are decided at the end? Then get us a clutch kicker Herm. I don’t care who we get.. As long as we get SOMEONE. What we currently have on our team just ain’t gonna cut it.
March 28th, 2008 at 2:23 pmAdam-
You stole my, “Face.” I will be expecting a royalty check.
March 28th, 2008 at 3:06 pmId rather deep throat sand paper than read your articles
March 28th, 2008 at 3:32 pmthen why are you still here?
March 28th, 2008 at 3:40 pmI dare say the Chiefs would take Chris Long or Gholston long before McFadden. Again, I have to disagree with calling Matt Ryan “elite” come on, really, what has he done to be called “elite” throw a lot of picks his senior year?????
March 28th, 2008 at 4:01 pmDave, what do you think the chiefs record will be next season? Where are our biggest needs? In what order do you think we will draft them?
March 28th, 2008 at 4:49 pmNot sure why you care what I think?
March 28th, 2008 at 4:54 pmCisp - I don’t want it to look like I am avoiding you or your questions
I am done at work and headed home - like anyone else I have plans for the night so I am not going to be on much
I don’t mind answering the questions at a different time - just think that was a little random to single me out and ask when I have never seen a post from you before
If you really want an answer from me tell me why you care - if its legit, sure I will tell you
again - don’t know why you care
I am just a newbie here
you should be asking Adam/Zach/Stevenh/Crane
March 28th, 2008 at 5:06 pmwhere’s adam at anyways..we been waitin for TB3 all day
March 28th, 2008 at 5:09 pmI hear the Chiefs have a lot of money left under the salary cap, maybe more than any other team in the league. What are they saving it for?
Jared Allen for one. If they were able to work out a deal for him, they would need a healthy bundle to pay him. They will also have at least 10 draft choices and those don’t come cheap these days, especially the fifth pick in the first round.
Also, with the signing in free agency of Casey Wiegmann (Denver), Kris Wilson (Philadelphia), Benny Sapp (Minnesota), Keyaron Fox (Pittsburgh) and Jimmy Wilkerson (Tampa Bay), they should pick up at least one, maybe two compensation picks.
Because they have spots on the roster to fill, the Chiefs figure to be very active in the post-Draft market for college free agents. Those cost money as well.
Also, expect the Chiefs to work hard to sign some of their young talent to new contracts before the reach free agency.
That money will get spent. If there’s one thing the Chiefs have not been deficient in over the last 10 years it’s managing the salary cap. They are among the best in the business.
this came off kcchiefs.com
March 28th, 2008 at 5:31 pmTB3 is not coming out today, and I never said it was
I said this weekend. It will drop before 11:59 pm Sunday, I can promise that.
March 28th, 2008 at 5:46 pmCrane, I actually stole “face” from Zach a long time ago.
Steven, as for what makes Matt Ryan elite? Oh, hell, I don’t know? Maybe winning 10 games two years in a row in the ACC despite not playing with elite talent. Maybe going 27-6 (I think, either that or 26-6) as a starter in one of the NCAA’s top conference. Maybe having everyone from Kiper to King to McShay saying he’s elite. Come on, we know you want Jake Long, but give Ryan some credit where credit is due.
Gholsten, I have some sandpaper. That can be arranged. And keep coming back and padding our traffic totals
Cisp, biggest needs: QB, T, G, CB, C, No. 2 WR, C and DT. Projected record: 6-10, possibly worse, but not much better. Not possible. Who knows about the draft order, but we’ll definitely draft two O-lineman in the first four rounds.
Everything else I saw can wait for TB3.
March 28th, 2008 at 5:53 pmadam in #30 you said that DRC was going too late
March 28th, 2008 at 5:58 pm#9 So is it SUCH a REACH to just get him at #5? PLEASE dont talk in circles
Does anyone have any updates on J Allen and his contract extension talk. I can definately see us taking a DE if the Cheaps don’t sign him long term.
March 28th, 2008 at 6:11 pmWell, it may seem like I’m late to the party, but really, I’ve been here. Just reading what everyone has to say… 1st of all… Gholston, youre an idiot… Go away. Next, I love this mock draft. Not cause this is what I would WANT, but because (as everyone has already said) we need to think possibilities, which is what I’m all about… So many people here claim “he’ll be gone”, “we wont take him”, “we’ll take him”, “he’ll be there”, BLAH BLAH BLAH! But REALLY NO ONE KNOWS. So, lets think possibilities. If we take DMC, how can we utilize him? (Punt & kick returns, 2nd RB in the back field next to LJ, which is another threat to defenses, and a 3rd down RB to give LJ a breather.) Now, what if we take Gholston or Chris Long? Then we have ourselves a guy who we can put at any end. Imagine if we put Chris Long next to Jared Allen (on the outside)?? That would be utter chaos for offensive coaches, QBs, and LTs. Or what if we take Gholston, move Tamba Hali to the inside and Gholston to End?? Then we have ourselves a hell of a line… Then what if we take Dorsey or Ellis? Then again… we’ll have one of the most destructive D-Lines in the NFL. Now, Matt Ryan… I’m not one of the dudes who think we should or even will take Matt Ryan at 5, but if it DOES happen, what great competition between him and Brodie. And either way, whoever wins after Training Camp, we’ll have a decent if not good backup QB (preferably Matt Ryan after Croyle gets injured like always)…. So c’mon guys… At 5, we’ve got HUGE advantage cause we’d be grabbing an elite player that (no matter who it is) will be making our team better. (Lets not forget a possible trade down)
March 28th, 2008 at 6:57 pmROC, Tamba to DT??? i dont see it because teams RUN right at him. i remember seeing some quote from an afc official saying that their gameplan was to run at tamba, run at tamba, run at tamba. i dont think him at Dt is a good idea. (don’t remember where i read it probably here)
March 28th, 2008 at 7:17 pmRoc27 - what’s up man
I have been missing the Roc smack, wondering where you have been and then I find out you have been just staying silent - come on, its always good to hear from you
I don’t know your thoughts on Brohm - drop a thought pro or con
March 28th, 2008 at 9:55 pmJason, when there are seven elite players in the draft and you draft fifth, not taking one of the seven elites is a reach. Period. Maybe you are thinking in circles? I’ll address Tamba to DT, Jared’s contract and everything else in TB3…let the anticipation build…
March 28th, 2008 at 10:10 pmDave! My Wing Man… Whats good, bro? Thanks for the comp, man. Nah, I’m just kinda getting ready for the draft and 2nd wave of Free Agency. It’s wierd, ya know? Sometimes I find myself repeating a lot of the things I’ve said before. And it gets annoying after while. I’m also just waiting til something comes up for me to take the time to comment about. I’m here everyday, so if you need that back-up (you know we see most things eye to eye), just holler… For the most part though, I like what YOURE saying and a few others…. So, Dorsey looked GREAT out there on his Pro-Day. And solidifies just why I would take him over Ellis. Not to take anything away from Sedrick, but I just like Dorsey. He’s the next Warren Sapp and will be such a dominant force for years to come. His injury concern has been laid to rest… So, if Jake, is gone… I’m pushing for Glenn Dorsey. . . As for Brian Brohm, I like him a lot. And actually, a lot more than Mr.Matty Ice… (sorry Adam). You know, I would go out on a limb and hope he’s there in the early 2nd, but that may not be the case… and PLUS… Its so hard to say what we SHOULD even pick in the 2nd round… I mean, a O-Lineman would make all the sense in the world (especially if we miss out on Jake Long). So, I would say Sam Baker. He’d be a cold blooded Chief… But then if Mario Manningham IS there, I would LOVE to pick him up as well. I’m not sold on our WR corps. It just hasnt clicked to me. Its like, “Herm! Dont sell me bullsh*t! Cause I know the prices!”. I think Manningham would be the solid #2 WR in our starting lineup… Then we would need to really consider a CB. But maybe we can get Chevis Jackson (CB LSU 6′ 184lbs… Maybe he can gain a few pounds, but I really like this kid. And he has great awareness. Ive been campaigning for this guy for a while already). From here, I really wanna use our 4th round pick on FB Owen SCHMITTY!! and any other picks we can use on O-Lineman, and DBs, maybe one QB like Chad Henne or whatever….
March 29th, 2008 at 1:14 amOh and FUN FACT guys; I went to school with USC’s Chilo Rachal!! He played with me on our Freshmen Football team at Whittier High School, then left for Cal-Hi. (trader) I never knew he went to USC…until I was watching the Combine and I see this very familiar big kid, running the 40 and his name pops us “Chilo Rachal #66 USC OL” and I was like “HOLY SH*T!!! THATS CHILO!!!” He was a great football player and did a lot for our team, while he was there. I was CB and I got to see him play every snap, with him being an OG. The only thing about Chilo that I remember is that he was a HUGE trouble maker and VERY immature. I think I heard Mike Mayock say the same thing (as far as him being immature.)But it was funny to see him on the NFL freakin