Reader Post: Merlinnj – Part 2: Free Agency And The Draft

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To continue the discussion, let’s take a look at free agency and the draft for the Chiefs. Previously we talked about the not signing high priced, aging vets when you are a 4-12 team. What players do you sign? Well, you look at younger players with talent that fit your system. These players can be hard to identify and many teams will not give them up easy. Chances are, they will come from teams changing systems and player X may not fit the new system. A couple of our signings fit this mold (Alabi and Williams). Will they work out? Who knows, but what you want to do, to borrow a phrase from Herm, is to create competition. Competition in most positions is a plus. Still, you need some veteran leadership as I talked about in my last post.

OK, on to the draft. As a kid, I fell in love with the draft. Not to bore anyone, but these were the days when the draft was not on TV and the second day was held on Monday. The first draft I can remember tracking was when we took Art Still over Ross Browner. We made the right choice there, but wiffed badly on Sylvester Hicks later on.

The big debate in draftnik circles is over philosophy. Do you draft the best player available or draft to need? Well, either approach, if followed strictly is asinine. Hypothetically speaking, say you have John Elway 4 years into his career and Peyton Manning is available. Do you pick him because he is the best available athlete over Reggie White when you have a glaring hole at DE? Of course you do not. You grab Reggie and be happy you got a HOF DE. If you have a glaring need at DE, but the best player there is a third round talent and you are in the first round, do you take that DE? Of course not. You grab one of the top 2-3 guys on your board, wherever your need is greater. Funny, that sounds like a synthesis of the two philosophies. That is generally what teams really do. They may put out a lot of noise, saying things like “well, we followed our board, and player X was the top player available.” Since we do not see their board, we can not dispute it. However, if drafting was as simple as that, why is there discussion in the draft room? Simple, there is discussion because people do not follow the board to the letter.

The board is a good guide, not an absolute rule. Teams pretty much follow it, but “pretty much” has wiggle room. What you want to try to do is to get value for each pick. This can be hard, because players do not stack up neatly with nice simple gradations with each player just slightly less valuable than the one before him. What you have is clusters and levels. Generally, you have blue chip players, then a level below that, and below that, so one and so on. However, not all 9.2 rated players are considered equal. In essence, there are 3 types of players that tend to jump above others in ratings and it all revolves around the QB. They are, in order: Be the QB, Kill the QB, Protect the QB. The QB position, the defensive front seven that can rush the passer (generally DE’s and OLB’s) and the left tackle fly highest on draft boards. A great pass rush covers a world of sins downfield.

How do we approach pick #5 in the draft? Well, we are nearing the end of the blue chip level. Drafting this high is high stakes, especially with the money involved today. Draft an Akili Smith, and you pay, and pay, and pay. What you really want and need to do is it to take advantage of this opportunity and hit a home run, like we did with Derrick Thomas. Right now, the blue chip level seems to be comprised, in no particular order, of Chris Long, Glenn Dorsey (with injury questions), Jake Long, Vernon Gholston, Sedrick Ellis and Run DMC. Most of us here agree that if Jake Long is available, we grab him and count our blessings. The dilemma comes if he is not available. Do you take a Dorsey, Ellis or Gholston because they are rated higher than your next level of player like a Ryan Clady? Well, you try not to, you try to trade down.

However, with the money involved in signing high draft picks, finding trading partners is so hard. If we see Jake Long go in the first 3 picks, I would bet that CP will be on the phone, and I think his first call would be to those master cheaters, the New England Patriots. I would not mind dropping down to #7 and taking Clady, but a trade has to work both ways. Many trade scenarios get floated, this is one I can see happening. NE likes Gholston and they know the Jets will take him if he is there at #6. If Gholston is available at #5 (and that is an IF) I can see this trade: Chiefs trade pick #5 and a 5th round pick to NE for pick #7 and pick #70 ( that is a high round 3 pick from Oakland, originally). Now, NE has a lot of holes to fill in the linebacker core and at CB. So, they may not be willing to pull the trigger. However, I do think this has possibilities. If I didn’t see value in a trade, I would sit and take Clady at #5. To me, left tackle is a critical position and Clady has Pro Bowl potential. It is hard to get that level of player at that position later on. Yes, I am aware of Tony Ugoh. Folks could argue for Dorsey or Ellis there and have a very legitimate case to make. I do not see Matt Ryan as a franchise QB, so I would not even look at him.

As you get deeper in the draft, projections get harder. Who is available can be a real crapshoot. I get a kick out of people who are projecting 4th, 5th round picks and beyond. In round 2, I am open to either the best O-lineman or CB available assuming the value is there, of course. I would not have a problem taking a second OT. The draft is deep at OT, and getting a strong RT in round two could be very good for us. The next rounds (3 & 4) I would like us to either get that second O-lineman or CB depending on what we did in round 2. After that, you are really looking for players that can come in and help you. We have multiple picks, so I could see a 3rd O-lineman, a 2nd CB, FB, blocking TE, WR, K in some order. Of course, our picks will probably not be exactly that.

The key here is patience. Good NFL teams are not built overnight. I know the Chiefs’ brass can not admit it, but 2008 is a rebuilding year. Our chances of contending are very small. I do not have a problem with that. What I want to see is the a solid foundation on both sides of the ball that will enable us to contend for years. I think that is where we are heading.

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Scott, I've decided that you have no idea what you're talking about. First you say this : As far as the worst case situation with both Longs, Ellis, and DMC off the board with no trade down I think I’d just go ahead and reach for Clady.

Then you say this : Jason, I don’t follow college football hardly at all.

What the fuck are you doing even talking about these players or criticizing others? Case Closed.

DRC will be 10 times the pro player that talib will be

look, im a huge ku fan, but Talib gets burned on big plays way too often to get picked anywhere in the first round. watch the bowl game you'll see. KU won by a large margin but talib got lucky that the QB from va tech missed open receivers all night. now ill give him the pick 6 but too much a high risk high reward player. in the nfl where the level of players is so close he'll get beat 9 out of 10 times he tries that crap. why do you think he fell in all the mocks that are halfway credible? watch some games. maybe chuck wants his nickname back.

Ian and Jason - Lets see some backup of your opinions here. Why do you think of him like you do?

Jason you have no idea what you are talking about....Talib would be a perfect fit in the cover 2 scheme and is very good....i disagree with you to the highest extent i can

I just have this feeling ist gonna go like this
mia-chris long
stl-Glenn Dorsey
Atl-Matt Ryan
Oak DMC
Kc jake long

thats what i really think is gonna happen im crossing my fingers

Jason, I don't follow college football hardly at all. I've been hearing pretty good things about Talib. He's not all that great? Fill me in here.

im a huge KU fan and i would HATE to see talib in kc. In fact the only way i would like to see him in kc was with DBOWE BURNING him downfield!! can you say overrated

You know KU fans would love seeing Talib in KC

OT is really our greatest need and I think we should address it first, but what's our second strongest need. I really think it's cornerback, and dangling Ryan in front of Baltimore seems like a good idea. With there pick at 8 we would no doubt have our pick between Cromartie and Talib. Plus, There is deep talent at Tackle through out rounds one and two. I just don;t think it would be a good idea to draft another punching bag that our O-line can rent out for weekly ass whoopins'

Clady is really not that good....I think Otah will end up being a better player in the long run then Clady will...Second of all you talk like you know someone will trade up with us....whos to say that the falcons don't trade or the raiders don't trade....Look we get who we get on the 26th....My guess is it will be Sedrick Ellis and im happy with that....other than Long the OT projected to go in the second are not far off from Clady and Otah and Chris Williams...I will say that the first two picks should be Lineman either Defense or offense, but who knows it is all a crapshoot

Pro draft Guide's latest mock has DRC at #6 to the jets more and more converters come on adam you can do it!!!

Very good article. Nice work.

As far as the worst case situation with both Longs, Ellis, and DMC off the board with no trade down I think I'd just go ahead and reach for Clady.

Speaking of trading scenarios, check this out: http://kcchiefsfanatic.com/2008/03/25/warning-low-flying-rumors-ahead/

Wouldn't the second one be awesome?

Also, something that just dawned on me while typing this - Wasn't there a rumor a while back that KC had some HUGE surprise in store during this offseason? (I believe that was from WPI about a month or so ago) Obviously, this surprise isn't going to come from free agency. The team has shitloads of cap room. Do you suppose it could be a deal with Miami to trade up to the # 1 spot so we can grab whoever the hell we want? Why not? What else could all that $$$ possibly get spent on?

Think about it.

The stipulation of The Blueprint 3 is no trading down...that's all the teasers for now...

Ooo. Blueprint3

1. Chris Long - MIA
2. Jake Long - STL
3. Matt Ryan - ATL
4. Sedrick Ellis - OAK
5. KC...

Trade down with Dallas for their two 1st rounders for run DMC. Skip, Ryan (I just wanted to pet the bunny rabbits) Clady for Adams sake and the fact he probably wont be there. Pick up Otah or Baker and Brian Brohm while silmutaneiously flipping Atlanta the bird (or give the bird the bird)(whichever you think is funniest). Then Herms favorite Cornerback in the 2nd.

http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/nfl-teams-show-they-like-glenn-dorsey-by-questioning-his-health/

Waiting on Dorsey's Pro Day to drop that.

What's not fun to read or discuss is the complete disdain for Matt Ryan among most Chiefs fans. I guess they watched a different player than I saw last year, and are reading different stuff on him currently.

What's even worse is reading about taking Clady--aka Lenny from Mice and Men--in the top ten. He's dumber than a box of rocks, raw and played against suspect competition. We cannot waste a top ten pick on that guy, let's get that through our skulls.

Other than that, I thoroughly enjoyed both the insightful post and the comments. There's going to be a new Blueprint out Friday, based on this highly likely scenario:

1. Chris Long - MIA
2. Jake Long - STL
3. Matt Ryan - ATL
4. Sedrick Ellis - OAK
5. KC?

Stay tuned...

I totally agree that LT is the main objective and the main justification for trading down and maximumizing value on our pick. The obvious theory here is that we can get what want and come out ahead on the deal. If not, well, rebuilding is a process, not an event after all and I think we have a little room this year to throw the dice if things fell this way to us.

DD: I like where you are going with the trade ideas. I think ATL will take Ryan. If they do not and Ryan and Gholston are still on the board, we could trade down to #7, NE takes Gholston. If the Jets pass on Ryan, you could drop down more. The key is, you do not want to lose your shot at the LT that you want. We could end up getting too cute for our own good. Scenarios like the above here are really best left to thiking on the fly during draft day. It is too complicated to predict, but fun to discuss!

brett:
With the trade, here is how I broke it down. Following the trade chart the pics are valued as follows: Our picks (#5 = 1700, #133 = 39.5) for a total of 1739.5 points. NE picks (#7 = 1500, #70 240 points) for a total of 1740 points. Now, here is the big deal with the trade chart. It is being revised with high first round picks being devalued due to the high money involved in signing the players. The other thing is that the team wanting to move up usually has to give more value in points than they receive. What I decided to do is to split the difference and go for 'equal value'. My guess is that if the trade gets done, it will not be that far off from what I proposed.

I'd even consider throwing Atlanta into mix if they were willing to deal away their 2nd round pick this year and next year's 1st round pick. If they suck again next year, which they probably will, we'll have 2 1st round picks in the '09, at least one of which will likely be in the top 10.

Nice piece Merlin. Love your "Be the QB, Kill the QB, Protect the QB" take.

I also agree with your view that we must accept that 2008 will be only a phase of rebuilding which hopefully will be completed by 2009.

I like the NE - Gholston scenario. So here's another "worst case" scenario (i.e, with both Longs, Ellis, and DMC gone) that I've been kicking around in my head - why not try to deal a best-case swap with either of the teams following us in the draft who happen to need a QB (i.e., Baltimore, Carolina) by threatening to take Ryan if we they don't do business with us? If neither bites, then I say we call their bluff and take him and then see if we make happen along the lines of the Manning-Rivers strategy in 04? Seriously, how bad could it get - so we take the leap, can't deal him away and then perhaps end up with a guy that might be a franchise QB, correct? Seems to fit pretty neatly into the all-about-the-QB approach too I'd say.

That trade doesnt make a lot of sense to me... if the pats value gholston enough to trade up n get em we better ask for more than swapping spots with them and adding a third (while giving up a 5th). I think we could swap spots and add the third + a later pick and not have to give up anything. If they wont take a deal like that then we should just stay put and draft whomever is left (except ryan)... One or more of these will be left Long, Long, Gholston, Ellis, or Dorsey.

I Like Gohlston from Ohio State. I would rather move Tamba inside and go with Gohston and Allen at ends with Boone inside with Tamba. I would love for Jake to be there but I don't think he is going to last that long. Dorseys injury history just scares me taken in the top five. So if we don't get Jake Long I would like Gholston first then Ellis. A takle in the second round, corner in the third with a OG then a center in the 4th and 5th rounds.

Man, that possible Dorsey injury is really the big wild-card. If it turns out he's been hiding knee surgery and the teams find out or get scared off, he plummets and all projections get skewed. The Dolphins' chances of taking Jake Long go up slightly (because they seem to be favoring Chris Long right now), the Rams' chances of doing so really shoot up, as does the Falcons' (especially if Matt Ryan is off the board by that point) and the Raiders (especially if someone else takes Sedrick Ellis and Senile Al has a moment of clarity and passes on McFadden). That would be the worst possible scenario for the Chiefs...the Longs, Ellis and McFadden off the board, Dorsey sidelined with a knee injury for awhile, and us unable to trade down. Actually, at that point (since we're not going to be competitive this year anyway) assuming that Dorsey's knee injury wouldn't permanently affect his ability I'd say we still look at drafting Dorsey. But then that's really the big if...if he's actually got a knee injury, how serious is it?