Rumor: Jared Allen To Eagles

to be honest, i'd love to have allen provided we knew he'd sign for a long-term deal, but the biggest factor in this trade for you guys would be the picks.  lito is a good playmaker, but prone to get burned from time to time and his health is a huge question, especially since he's so young. the trade almost looks even to me depending on if you get a couple of real players with the picks. get peterson to make the call on this for our sake.

I am sorry, I mean if the Eagle really want Jared Allen.

I do not know what the Eagles will or will not give up, but I do know it does not matter what the player was chosen in the past.  If that was how the trade was based we would be giving the Eagle Jared Allen (fourth rounder), and probably a first rounder.  In fact, Jared Allen has performed as though he was a first rounder and Lito Sheppard has performed very rarely do to injuries.  So if the Eagles really want Sheppard then they will have to give up a first rounder and also a 3rd or 4th rounder.

from an eagles fan--- the eagles will not give up their first round pick and Lito...... maybe Lito and a 2nd round pick but definately not both.... Lito was a first round pick I believe 5 years ago.

I had plenty damn near and almost in the nineties.  The Packers run a different defense, and maybe we should too, but the point is, we're not going to.  It just wouldn't make sense to pay awesome man corners to play in a defense that is built for average corner play.  Actually, the more I think about it, the more it sounds exactly like something th Chiefs would do:)

Or you can be like the Packers, and ride two great corners damn near all the way to the Super Bowl. It goes both ways, RedEye.

Why are so many people hoping for/expecting the Chiefs to sign top performing CBs?  I guess it would be great to find one that would play cheap, but have you seen the contracts these guys are getting?  How much money to we want tied up in cover two corners?  Look at the Patriots.  Draft a corner, coach 'em up, make them look good, and let the your division rivals (Law-Jets) overpay them.  That eats up their cap space and you keep beating them. 

Bottom line BROS! We are NOT trading our pick through FA, unless its like a mind blowing, monster deal.

Wow. . . No offense kcrob, but thats not smart. . . No. Not really.

I disagree that we're losing our #1 pick for trading away Jared. He was a late round pick, and there's nothing to say we couldn't replace him with another late round pick. All draft picks are not equal, but they could turn out to be years later.

hey does anyone think we can get the same offer from Atlanta for Hall? or maybe add croyle to the mix. then we could possible get Chris long at 3 and Clady or Jake Long at 5 and possible even trade our 2 to move back into the first to get Bhrom. I know this is a very large reach , and would require someone to do some work at 1 Arrowhead Dr.

Kc56 where did you hear that? and if we did trade Allen i doubt the trade would involve the eagles giving so much up...I could see Sheppard and and a fourth OR a first maybe a second but i can't see both...but i wouldn't mind

kcchiefsfan56 - Where did you read that?

well i just read that lito sheppard was traded to the cardinals

also has anyone even looked to see if Carl peterson is here. Becaus ei think he takes the frirst couple off weeks of FA off for vacation!!!!

If this deal is avaliable then lets do it what are the chiefs waiting for..... i guarentee they won't find a better offer. Also why does it always seem like the chiefs schedule their FA visits after the players have spoken to 3 or 4 teams.... why can't the chiefs be their first visits. That seems to be why we lose out on alot of guys we were possibly interested in. just a thought.

Again, the deal is too good to be true.

The only bad thing is, the Giants won a superbowl off the play of the D-ends especially.  They were stuck to Brady like genital worts!!

but when it comes to that quick first step ,Allen is the best in football

this trade is well worth it. I can see JA going to the Eagles and being far less productive, and to get another first and fourth along with our current draft position, it would be great!!! Not to mention getting the only corner that can SHUT DOWN randy moss,   Jared who???? Also most good defensve ends flourish on the right side, where I think Tama Hali would do alot better.

That Rumor IMO has no merit.  That is way to much for the Eagles to give, remember Jared wants top dollar.  No team will give a #1, #4, and a star young corner on top of a High dollar contract.  If this was true, Petersen would have pulled the trigger already.  Just not going to happen.  Jared Allen will stay in KC.  As he should! GO Chiefs

If we draft a DE with #5 to replace Allen, you are essentially losing your first round pick.

Guys, would we be swapping picks or gaining another 1st? Read the snippet--I don't think we'd be losing our 1st...

-cw

There is a 825 point difference between #5 and #19.  The 19th pick in the 4th round is only worth 64 points so you are giving a 761 point value to Sheppard.  That would equal a #23 pick overall. All of this is of course taking for granted that you would be able to replace Allen with an equal player which would be very difficult.

The problem with this trade is that you lose the #5 pick to replace Allen.  In the end you gain a 4th round pick and a young corner for moving down 14 spots in the 1st round.  Is that really going to be worth it?

That trade won't happen. The Eagles value draft picks very high and to let two go, plus Lito on top of that, is not like them. Its more likely they trade for WR or for more draft picks.

By the way, watch for that Samuels-to-Philly trade; I bet this rumor heats up if that happens.

This would piss me off because I feel like we have such a premier player, I'd hate to let him go. But if he refuses to play for us, it's prolly the best way to go. I mean, we're getting $1.50 on the dollar for him, I think. It would hurt, but it kinda reminds me of the Portis-Bailey trade. I think the superstar we'd be acquiring is far more rare than the superstar we'd be gaining.

Wow that sounds nuts. I would love to get Jared allen, but that seems like an awful lot to give up. I know this won't go down unless the Eagles sign Asante Samuel. There are rumors that a contract is being worked out right now, and Samuel will be an Eagle.

im seeing in other sites that there will be good takles maybee into the 3 rd round and good cb till early 5th rounds ! so i say we have to take best player a #5 spot in draft whoever it is !!! god i hope long is there though hes a beast !!!

 anyone know anything about the cb were going to visit with from dallas[ reeves], average c b at best is what i get out of it ! guess ol herm is the best one to judge him though !

It is ok if we don't Long at 5 (with a big assumption that this trade happens) we can still get a LT at 19.  Clady, Williams, Otah,  one of these will be available.  We could add a lot.

I still think I don't like the idea of trading Allen. He is proven and a leader on defense. Seems wer're getting rid of everyone and not knowing who we are getting in the draft. If I were in the front office I would wait until the draft to make this trade if Long is not at our First pick.

yeah you all are right on porter though ! forgot about the whole sitting out and pouting in oakland deal till just now  nice point

i really like the guy from az though hes got wheels ! johnson !

No on porter, haven't heard to much about any of the WR's besides Berrian.  Anyone?

 i dont get the whole dumping sapp this year unless it was his temper ! he did show some flashes this year ! if we gab em both we can find another decent corner in draft im sure later rounds im hearing the draft is full of c b this year then dump surtain too ! surtain is eating up a lot of cap room this year too !

Adam, youre right. He is too old, I was thinking about that just now and he's f'n slow

Porter is too old, has character issues and will likely sign with Jacksonville this weekend.

I don't think we'll do both for financial reasons. Especially when we could draft Gholston, someone like Otah and then a QB (Flacco, Henne) or WR (DeSean Jacskon, James Hardy) in round two, and then O-lineman the rest of day one. That would be an incredible draft day. And, remember, this is still a rumor at this point.

Actually I wouldn't mind if Surtain was our nickel corner behind sheppard and hall.  Tamba and Gholston at DE, the fastest lb's in captivity.  That could be a sick defense.

Man, sometimes I think all of us here at AA should be hired by the Chiefs and take over their front office, damnit!

I was ACTUALLY think Porter too. That might not be a bad idea.

ive been seeing we may be able to pick up hall for a 4 or 5 round pick ! thats worth it to me ! trade allen use the 4 th from eagles and get em both yatzeee!!!   lol

Im tellin' you; Sheppard and Hall. Thats too sick

 i still like porter [oak]and johnson from az as a wr ! wouldnt hurt to throw our name in th hat for them 2 either !

What kind of contract is Lito looking for?  Isn't that why he is unhappy in Philly, because of his contract situation?

I only say that because of all the issues that seem to surrond Hall.  I haven't heard that Sheppard is a problem in the locker room.  Plus if the Giants are willing to trade their 1st for him, we would have to beat that. 

 i stillgotta say if the price is right on hall we have to try to land him too ! surtain is getting slower too + hall is a heck of a return man !!

Wow... How tempting is this!? Ive BEN hollering LITO SHEPPARD all week! And bannyc9, I would STILL like to take D.Hall... Thats a killer combination at CB.