Comments on: Franchised! http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/ A Kansas City Chiefs blog Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:44:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: redbeard http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/comment-page-1/#comment-10107 redbeard Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:02:04 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/#comment-10107 Carl is an idiot and one reason for allot of behind the locked doors... atmosphere, with the players and staff and managment at Arrowhead, outwardly we see problems and stress comming from the players quite often, but behind closed doors, it is so much worse... the community and fan support, along with the whole metro areas' appeal... do so much in keeping players here in KC... yes the money talks... but the organization under King Carl isnt what it used to be. Carl is an idiot and one reason for allot of behind the locked doors… atmosphere, with the players and staff and managment at Arrowhead, outwardly we see problems and stress comming from the players quite often, but behind closed doors, it is so much worse… the community and fan support, along with the whole metro areas’ appeal… do so much in keeping players here in KC… yes the money talks… but the organization under King Carl isnt what it used to be.

]]> By: xxxlp http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/comment-page-1/#comment-10098 xxxlp Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:15:28 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/#comment-10098 Whoever said DE isn't worth 2 first rounders is insane. DE is one of the top 3 positions on the field. QB/OT (Mostly LT, for right handers)/DE are the top 3, not necessarily in that order. They are game changers, their performance affects the outcome of any given game 9/10 times. Say your QB throws 5 picks.. most likely you are going to lose.  Whereas if he throws 5 TD's... Chances are good you'll win. Say your LT gives up 6 sacks (As Winston Justice did for the Eagles)  most likely you are going to lose. Say he dominates the line and gives your QB all day to throw. A mostly winning percentage there. Say your star pass-rushing DE gets no sacks/tackles in a game. Ouch. You know the trend by now. Say he gets 3 sacks, a forced fumble, hits the quarterback 5 more times, and swats a ball down, all on top of 6 tackles. Great D, great chance to win. One could argue that MLB is the 'leader of the D', but just look at what DE's did for the Giants against the Pats. On a sidenote: if I had the ability to get Allen for 2 1st rounders, I'd snatch him up quick. A young pro-bowl STUD pass-rushing DE, with the ability to decoy/make great plays on special teams/offense, who can be a leader/mainstay on your team for the next 6-10 years? Piece of cake. Done deal. Whoever said DE isn’t worth 2 first rounders is insane. DE is one of the top 3 positions on the field. QB/OT (Mostly LT, for right handers)/DE are the top 3, not necessarily in that order. They are game changers, their performance affects the outcome of any given game 9/10 times. Say your QB throws 5 picks.. most likely you are going to lose.  Whereas if he throws 5 TD’s… Chances are good you’ll win. Say your LT gives up 6 sacks (As Winston Justice did for the Eagles)  most likely you are going to lose. Say he dominates the line and gives your QB all day to throw. A mostly winning percentage there. Say your star pass-rushing DE gets no sacks/tackles in a game. Ouch. You know the trend by now. Say he gets 3 sacks, a forced fumble, hits the quarterback 5 more times, and swats a ball down, all on top of 6 tackles. Great D, great chance to win. One could argue that MLB is the ‘leader of the D’, but just look at what DE’s did for the Giants against the Pats. On a sidenote: if I had the ability to get Allen for 2 1st rounders, I’d snatch him up quick. A young pro-bowl STUD pass-rushing DE, with the ability to decoy/make great plays on special teams/offense, who can be a leader/mainstay on your team for the next 6-10 years? Piece of cake. Done deal.

]]> By: Steven http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/comment-page-1/#comment-10097 Steven Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:47:06 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/#comment-10097 Other teams won't negotiate with him unless they are willing to give up the 2 first round picks.  What benefit does it serve another NFL team to help out a player finding out what he is worth if they don't intend to sign him?   I agree with the setiment that no team is going to give up 2 first rounders.  I could be wrong.  I'm sure Allen is playing hardball, like I mentioned earlier, he has all the leverage.  If you have the league leader in sacks on your team, and there is a significant chance he is going to get better---you have to pay him.  <strong>SHOW JARED THE MONEY!</strong> Other teams won’t negotiate with him unless they are willing to give up the 2 first round picks.  What benefit does it serve another NFL team to help out a player finding out what he is worth if they don’t intend to sign him?   I agree with the setiment that no team is going to give up 2 first rounders.  I could be wrong.  I’m sure Allen is playing hardball, like I mentioned earlier, he has all the leverage.  If you have the league leader in sacks on your team, and there is a significant chance he is going to get better—you have to pay him.  SHOW JARED THE MONEY!

]]> By: Cornelius http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/comment-page-1/#comment-10091 Cornelius Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:18:03 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/#comment-10091 Jared is playing hardball? I don't know, he just wants his money to ensure his future, and he knows he's better than basically every other DE in the league. He's committed to the city and the team, why the team isn't reciprocating that committment is beyond that. Jared is playing hardball? I don’t know, he just wants his money to ensure his future, and he knows he’s better than basically every other DE in the league. He’s committed to the city and the team, why the team isn’t reciprocating that committment is beyond that.

]]> By: ROC27 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/comment-page-1/#comment-10106 ROC27 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:53:26 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/#comment-10106 The Mullet Man is here to stay. Im pretty sure. The ONE thing Im worried about is whether the long term deal will get settled by Camp. I mean, the last thing this team needs is another holdout. We have the money. Its like "SIGN THE MAN!!!" He's the 2007 sack leader. 15.5! C'mon! Thats a big deal and the guy is BARELY 25! He's not Michael Strahan, who's in his final years. Jared is just getting started. He's the leader of this D! Why? Cause he CAN be! The best leader we've had since D.Thomas... So, with THAT said... Kinda off topic... but I wanted some opinions on this... MLB? Should  we stick with what we have? Or look to the draft? OR!!! Free Agency (though most LBs are older. ie. Junior Seau, Teddy Bruschi, Derrick Smith). I havent really commented on the whole Stallworth thing... but I think it would be great for us. Gonzo, D.Bowe, and Stallworth... Dude! That sounds too good to be true.... NEXT! I JUST heard that Phillidelphia is allowing Lito Sheppard to look at other teams... Now, I like him for our CB situation. If we dont draft any CBs in the draft I would hope that we'd already have either Sheppard AND OR Marcus Trufant. So many possiblities. Time will tell. The Mullet Man is here to stay. Im pretty sure. The ONE thing Im worried about is whether the long term deal will get settled by Camp. I mean, the last thing this team needs is another holdout. We have the money. Its like "SIGN THE MAN!!!" He’s the 2007 sack leader. 15.5! C’mon! Thats a big deal and the guy is BARELY 25! He’s not Michael Strahan, who’s in his final years. Jared is just getting started. He’s the leader of this D! Why? Cause he CAN be! The best leader we’ve had since D.Thomas… So, with THAT said… Kinda off topic… but I wanted some opinions on this… MLB? Should  we stick with what we have? Or look to the draft? OR!!! Free Agency (though most LBs are older. ie. Junior Seau, Teddy Bruschi, Derrick Smith). I havent really commented on the whole Stallworth thing… but I think it would be great for us. Gonzo, D.Bowe, and Stallworth… Dude! That sounds too good to be true…. NEXT! I JUST heard that Phillidelphia is allowing Lito Sheppard to look at other teams… Now, I like him for our CB situation. If we dont draft any CBs in the draft I would hope that we’d already have either Sheppard AND OR Marcus Trufant. So many possiblities. Time will tell.

]]> By: Zach http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/comment-page-1/#comment-10105 Zach Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:17:38 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/#comment-10105 Guys I know we all want to blame Carl, but Jared might be playing hardball too. He probably wants the ability to talk with the other teams around the league to find out his value.<br /><br />I really believe this is a process and it will get done.... Plus I have always agreed with Carl by not giving him this deal last season when JAred had a 4 game suspension plus possibility of being suspended for a year with his next violation.<br /><br />(Lets just say that Jared does do something stupid and gets a year suspension, then Chiefs fans will be bitching about why Carl gave him a contract. Thats how we work thse days until the King is retired.) Guys I know we all want to blame Carl, but Jared might be playing hardball too. He probably wants the ability to talk with the other teams around the league to find out his value.

I really believe this is a process and it will get done…. Plus I have always agreed with Carl by not giving him this deal last season when JAred had a 4 game suspension plus possibility of being suspended for a year with his next violation.

(Lets just say that Jared does do something stupid and gets a year suspension, then Chiefs fans will be bitching about why Carl gave him a contract. Thats how we work thse days until the King is retired.)

]]> By: kcchiefsfan56 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/comment-page-1/#comment-10096 kcchiefsfan56 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:04:16 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/#comment-10096 i swear if carl lets him get away i will drive my ass from miss to kc and beat hiss ass i swear if carl lets him get away i will drive my ass from miss to kc and beat hiss ass

]]> By: Cornelius http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/comment-page-1/#comment-10090 Cornelius Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:00:56 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/#comment-10090 As happy as this makes me that he'll almost definitely be around another year, it makes me so sick that Carl can't sign one of the most dynamic and energetic defensive players in the league to a long term deal. As happy as this makes me that he’ll almost definitely be around another year, it makes me so sick that Carl can’t sign one of the most dynamic and energetic defensive players in the league to a long term deal.

]]> By: danzinski http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/comment-page-1/#comment-10095 danzinski Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:45:42 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/#comment-10095 Two first-rounders for Allen?  I might consider it. Two first-rounders for Allen?  I might consider it.

]]> By: Jeremy http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/comment-page-1/#comment-10094 Jeremy Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:16:43 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/02/19/franchised/#comment-10094 We know what we have in Jared.  We know how to use him.  He knows he is productive in our defense, and a pivotal part of it.  He will be paid handsomely.  He is not guaranteed anything but money if he signs somewhere else.  He is loved here and has a certain comfort level.  I would be surpised if he holds out or does not sign a long term deal.   Carl will pay him.  Remember Carl usually takes his time.  Maybe I am too optimisitc, but I really do not see Jared going anywhere.  I am willing to bet on it.  GO CHIEFS! We know what we have in Jared.  We know how to use him.  He knows he is productive in our defense, and a pivotal part of it.  He will be paid handsomely.  He is not guaranteed anything but money if he signs somewhere else.  He is loved here and has a certain comfort level.  I would be surpised if he holds out or does not sign a long term deal.   Carl will pay him.  Remember Carl usually takes his time.  Maybe I am too optimisitc, but I really do not see Jared going anywhere.  I am willing to bet on it.  GO CHIEFS!

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