AA's Pre-Super Bowl Mock

In this league that is now filled with 2-back systems, Dallas has one of the best one in Marion the Barbarian, and Julius Jones. I just heard on NFL Total Access last night that Dallas, aka Jerry Jones, is trying to work with Miami to make a deal for the number one pick in the draft, so he can get McFadden. He's going to offer both his number 1 draft picks, AND Marion Barber. Jesus Christ, if he offers that the Dolphins would be STUPID not to take that, they'd have 2 awesome backs in Ronnie Brown and Marion Barber, and 2 picks in the first round to start building this team around their running backs. Each of those guys has enough gas in the tank for AT LEAST 5-6 more years, and they'd be able to last even longer if they stay in a 2-back system. Or, they could trade either of them (pro bowl caliber guys) for another first round pick, and have 3 chances to make major immediate upgrades on their team. Right now the Dolphins, if this trade is made, look like they are in a great position to get things done.

Ok... Well, that was easy. Good Riddance "Rick"...  (that was the easiest Ive EVER seen a Raider fan flee). Anyway, back to more relevant things... DMC going to Dallas wouldnt kill me as much as if he went to Oakland. Yet, I DONT want McFadden to be boobie trapped in Dallas. I dont get it, they ALREADY have a guy in the backfield who can carry the load, its retarded!

I think Jerry Jones might even try trading up farther than the 5th pick to get him, now that I think about it. Jerry Jones has something like 40 draft-day-trades, and only 3-4 of them don't involve a number 1 pick in some way. He's a machine at moving around on draft day, he sees a guy he likes and goes after him. Usually his ideas work out well, also.  As much as I hate the Cowgirls, I can't disagree that drafting with them is pretty nice.  I think he'll move up around 3rd, maybe 2nd, to make sure he lands McFadden, if he does like the kid that much. But I can still pray. lol

Hey all, if McFadden is still on the board at 5, then I think Dallas's two first round picks, their second round pick, and a consideration pick in the future based on production (3rd, 4th or 5th) would be great.  We could pick up a talented speedster at WR, or CB with our first pick.  Then get either a DT, OLB, CB, or T with our second first round pick, depending on how things shake out.  Then get a Tackle with our Second round pick.  Then with our Second, second round pick go guar, CB,  OLB. If we can pull it off there is alot of value to having the top five pick, if not and our guy is still there,  you grab him.

Wow, did i hit a nerve. I was 13 when my dad took me to see oakland play KC in a playoff game.  It was rainy and overcast. The Raiders won with Lamonica throwing bombs all day. I was hooked. I hope my team gets better. I hope your's don't but ya gotta admit its gonna be fun.....I will leave your site alone now..... "Just win baby"

Reference Points: Warren Sapp, Charles Woodson, RANDY MOSS, For crying out loud! And WITHIN the team, Jerry Porter, Dominic Rhodes, Kurt Morrison, the list goes on and on... I REALLY hope Run DMC DOESNT FALL to Chokeland... NOT cause Im scared he'll tear us apart... Cause He WILL disappear into what RICK & other Raider Fans call the " The Black (butt) Hole"... Waste of talent.

The nerve of this clown... Why is there even a Raider fan here?? Not Cool... Big Ups to xxxlp, for the memories... Dude, Its not so much that the players Chokeland aquired sucked, its more like the RAIDERS suck. Its like curse. When A player puts on the Black & Silver, they are destined to fail... These guys had and still have top notch players, but they dont know how to utilize them and bring forth the best in them.

I like how he calls out our failed draft picks. Which, btw, John Tait is not one of. A solid right tackle, was a starter here (an effective one, as you should know) and has been a starter in Chicago for the past what, 4 years? Sorry, can't remember exactly when he was traded. But let's take a trip down memory lane Rick, clear back to 2000-until present, and look at the Raider's first round picks, shall we? 2000, Sebastian Janikowski.  A kicker.. Need I say more? Solid kicker, yes, but a first rounder? Negative, chief. 2001, safety Derrick Gibson, replaced by the 1st round pick of 2006, because he was ineffective. Also known as a BUST, or a NON-HOUSEHOLD NAME, as you'd like to term it. 2002, LB Napoleon Harris, no comment on that, it's self explanatory. 2002, also, Phillip Buchanon, CB, lasted 3 years in Oakland before becoming a Texan? Weak. Aka: Bust. 2003, Tyler Brayton, DE, Has played in over 70 career games, at both DE/LB, and has less than 20 sacks? Are you kidding me? Bizzust. 2003, also, Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, finally. A top notch pick. This guy is the poor man's Champ Bailey, a good player overall, and a household name, even if people cannot pronounce it, haha. 2004, Robert Gallery, OT, a bust of monumental proportions. Hasn't worked out at either tackle position, after being billed as the next 'Can't-Miss-Pick'.  2005, Fabian Washington, yes that's right, ANOTHER CB, 3 top CB's in 4 years? Tsk, tsk. Fabian is not that bad of a player, but got picked on at times because Nnamdi was locking up the other receiving options, he's not as good as Nnamdi, but still has promise, so can't label him a bust... Yet :) . 2006, Michael Huff, a solid player who is progressing and getting alot of help thanks to solid corners backing him up, Huff is far from a bust, but far from a superstar, his rookie year he started all 16 games, and had no sacks, no picks, no fumble recoveries. And last but not least.. well, kind of, 2007, QB JaMarcus Russell. Has a cannon for an arm, but hasn't shown me at least that he can be anything special in the NFL. People seem to forget that in college, people were clamoring for Flynn in LSU, because Russell was sucking it up. He was so close to being benched it wasn't funny, but they let him stick it out and he had 2 good games, one of which was against Notre Dame I think? I can't remember the other one, sorry, but He was 1 pick, or 1 stupid play away from being yanked, and he turns into the Raiders number 1 pick, who did almost nothing during this regular season, while costing them boatloads. Got. To. Love. It.

"Just win baby"????? Someone please tell me... Who is this clown!?? 1st of all, LJ's numbers against the Choke-land Gay-ders are ridiculous (-ly good). Gimme a break. But I do love the pride you have with your team. Somethings may never change, I love argument with Raider fans... They're SO EASY to win and feel satisfied with at the end. I dont even know where fans like you have room to talk. Sure you beat us ONCE this past season... but when was the last time  you beat us??? PLEASE, I wanna hear the answer from YOU, bro.

Larry Johnson made it through a 416-carry season, Rick. What the eff are you talking about. Comparing Justin Fargas to L.J. is like comparing a homeless man's wallet to Bill Gates'. Get outta here. And Tait was a good pick, who has performed well for the Bears. We were just cheap.

You're proud of your team Rick, I like to see that, but it's doubtful (though a possibility) that McFadden will land to the Raiders, and on a sidenote; have fun trying to hold your team together in the next 3-4 years when you have huge contracts given to your two top 5 picks in successive years. Also, I'd refrain from bashing Larry Johnson until Frail Lamont Jordan is able to carry the load through the season as well, and as much as you want M. Bush to start, as of now, he's an unproven 2nd year man coming off a broken leg. Personally I think he will do just fine, but you'd like to criticize Larry and his 1700+ yards in  consecutive seasons rushing, then we will criticize an unproven young man. Yep, Huggy Bear's baby boy (Justin Fargas, for those of you who didn't know) tore our D up, no excuses for that, we just plain sucked that day, and the better team won, that day. I'd also like to point out the fact that, brittle, small-hearted LJ has almost singlehandedly beaten your team the last few years, when the rest of our 'O' sucked. Say what you like, even though most of it is worthless, but don't lose the spirit, it's nice to see a lonely Fader fan sticking up for his squad.

So Adam, draft picks like:Victor Riley, John Tait, Sylvestor Morris, Ryan Sims.  House hold names? Please don't thank Oakland for getting you a better draft choice.  Oh by the way Larry Johnson will NEVER play a full season for the Chiefs, he's brittle and has a small heart. Maybe you could pick up Fargus on waviers.  He made your run D look weak. Can't wait for Russell, Bush and McFadden to get tired moving up and down the field in Arrowhead......."Just Win Baby"

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That's what I'm saying,  it doesn't even have to be a decent FA guard we pick up, besides Max Starks then bam, we'd have a good LT, LG, C, rg is still a question mark, and the RT would be McIntosh, the right side of the line is for sure the weakest part of it, but still decent, depending on who we can land. That leaves us flexibility in the draft, with our biggest holes being at least partially filled, and we could go after the best player on the board, not the best player at the position we need, on the board.

I'm telling ya - getting both Starks and Lilja would be the perfect situation.  We could then use our first pick for either Ellis, Conner, or Jenkins or, even better,  trade down into the middle of pack and get DeSean Jackson.   Think about it,  we'd be almost completely set after the 1st round and then still have 10 or 11 picks left to go!   GAWD!!!

Um, Rick, not really. We didn't have Larry Johnson for that second game, the best player on either team. Also, thanks for beating us that second time. Now we have a first-round pick that we'll actually do something with, unlike the Raiders. There won't be any Michael Huff or Robert Gallery choke jobs for us. We look forward to pounding the Silver and Black twice next year.

Besides, haven't we won nine out of the last 10?

Your oogly mooglies need to quit reading and believing the rumors. Al Davis and Lane Kiffin were rumored to be eating at Spanolis Sea Food eatery. Drinking wine and laughing. Raiders beat the doo doo out of you once last year and shoulda been twice.  You fear Oakland so much HAHAHAHAHAH

Also, I was reading the Jared Allen Sports Bar Blog & read something interesting in the comments... Tony Richardson! It makes all the sense in the world to sign him again. We could use him the way we can use Donnie (see Comment above)... before Tony calls it quits, he can play for us at FB (DUH) and teach good ol' Boomer Grigs a thing or two at the FB position... At This Point, we NEED all the help we can get ( Offensively).

Ok, Adam... I'll give Nap THAT much. He DID make over a hundred tackles but is also playing average. If we stick w/ him, I think we should put him at Outside LB, put Donnie in the middle & calling the shots. Napolean would be better at gaurding slot recievers & TE's than Donnie, being that he's younger & faster... Then Meanwhile, Donnie can teach Nap how to run the D more effectively. Plus, He can have that time to become more familiar w/ our Defense.

He has three years left on his deal, so if Carolina really wants to dump him, then they might have to take 50 cents on the dollar.

I think we need to take it easier on Napoleon. He did have 100-plus tackles. Give him a year to grow into this defense. He has played on three teams with three different defenses and DCs in three years, which is hard to do at his spot. He hasto know the defenses better than anyone else.

And thanks Adam for the Kris Jenkins info, I am always too lazy to take the time to look these kinds of things up, lol. So much for my KJ idea then, I don't see us trading any picks to pick him up, when we just drafted 2 young linemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, plus picked up Boone.

I think if we got Max Starks, he would be our starting LT, as he's only 25, and handled some dominant DE's singlehandedly rather well for his age. So who needs a Jake Long or Ryan Clady when we already have a 25 year old LT that would be our starter (hopefully) for the next 10 years? We could instead, trade down, pick up perhaps a WR/DT/CB/G, and  things look much different. I do hope we can either get Kawika back, draft a new MLB, or move Donnie inside and draft an outside backer. Napoleon Harris just isn't what he was billed to be, which was a playmaking middle-man. I had better ideas of what the other team was running sometimes than what he did. At least that's what it looked like to me. Despite our old CB's, I still think MLB is our weak spot on defense. We need someone who can lead, inspire, and be an excellent addition to our D. I don't see Napoleon doing any of that.

A few quick hitters:
Kris Jenkins is not a FA, but is on the market.
I like the Randall Gay idea.
No to Kawika.
Hopefully we are looking at Lilja, Faneca, Starks, etc...
Love Dominique Rogers-Cromartie and Chevis Jackson.
Love Trufant as well.
Shaun Rogers has an attitude problem, but I even like Big Baby.
Bobby Carpenter would be nice, but Run DMC will likely already be gone.

xxxlp, that was one of the more appealing recommendations Ive heard... bring back K-MITCH!! Ive always loved Kawika as our middle man. He's so hardcore. And I think that Herm should consider bringing him back. I also agree with you mentioned as far as giving Donnie the reigns on the field. He has so much knowledge in the game, he'd be perfect. Plus, It DOES make sense to have him either blitz or stay out in coverage gaurding TE's, as he HAS lost a step with age. Then we can have Mitch (if he came back) on the outside, gaurding the slot recievers, him being a little more younger and energetic than Donnie. Plus, while he was in Kansas City, Mitchell played MLB. In New York he's been on the outside (MLB belongs to "Thug Life" Antonio Pierce). So Kawika might be a little better and used to being on the outside.And then ofcourse we'll have my boy DJ flying at RB's, QB's, and WR's like the animal he is and as he NORMALLY does. That'd be the Linebacker Corp that I'd wanna tell my grandchildren about... If only Herm and King Carl can see what we're talking about.... Next, Double D, You read my mind... Max Starks just might be a great pickup for us. But I also STILL think we should sign Ryan Lilja as well. Plus, it sounds so much more realistic than Lilja and Faneca. Too much moolah! So we can start Starks at RT, Lilja at RG, draft and start Jake Long at LT, and keep McIntosh as our backup Tackle... Man, this sounds better and better... Now, on to the "draft picks #4 and 5 trade with Dallas"  talk... While I DO like the idea of getting 2 1st round draft picks and POSSIBLY getting LB Bobby Carpenter... I freaking HATE the Cowboys!!! I'd rather not deal with Dallas (too many Uncle's in my family that are Cowboy fans) . No thank you. Plus, like you (Double D) said, if we use that #4 or 5 pick on a OT (either Long or Clady), we SHOULD get a high speed WR or a hard hitting CB. Makes sense... But quite frankly... We need to keep that pick and take either the #1 or #2 OT in the draft... This entire scenrio I just talked about sounds quite appealing to ME... But thats just me...  P.S. K-Mitch was the only dude who could single handedly take down Mr. Marion "The Barbarian"!! MORE THAN ONCE! BRING BACK KAWIKA MITCHELL!

Very good job.. the best I've seen,.....only issues with picks 14, 17 (QBs) ..they can wait,..and pick #29...Sweed is slow and just can't get that wrist to heal.

We have plenty of cap room, everyone says, but if you think about it, we aren't going to have as much as everyone thinks.. Trent Green, Lawrence Tynes, Kawika Mitchell, Michael Bennett, Dante Hall, and I'm sure I'm forgetting someone, were all traded last year, and I don't completely understand the cap structure and situations that go along with that, but I'm sure they will affect us at least a little bit. Not to mention the fact that we have about 8 players whose contracts are up, including Jared Allen, who will demand big money. But I still think we can land 1-2 SOLID free agents. My situation I would like best is Max Starks for LT,  Justin Smiley, RG, from San Fran, also I'd like to pick up either Shaun Rogers, Kris Jenkins, or Marcus Trufant. Although I'm not sure if Kris is an unrestricted free agent, he may be just trade-bait or a restricted free agent. Randall Gay is also an underrated corner who is a free agent, but who gets overshadowed by his teammate, Asante Samuel. If we can get any of those guys, I will be happier.

xxxlp - The problem  I see with the 3-4 is that it tends to force offense into a passing game.  I don't see our  secondary, such as it is, being able to pick up the slack, particularly on the outside.As for suggestions about trading down with Dallas, I generally do not like the idea of trading away a #4 or #pick for anything lower than #15.   At the same time, I could envision scenarios where that becomes a more favorable possibility if we acquire the right players through free agency.   For example, if we got Max Starks, then I would feel better about moving further down.  If we don't get a good, young LT through free agency then I really wouldn't want to go any lower than the #11 slot because Denver has #12.  Buffalo, the current #11 pick, needs are DT, CB, LB, and WR so they would be motivated to move up and they have a couple of high 3rd round picks so I could see a deal with that gives us their 2nd round pick and at least one of their 3rd rounders.  If the Chiefs can't find a suitor then the pick the best LT available (probably Clady). BTW, anybody agree with having Chilo Rachal so high in the 2nd round much less the Chiefs picking him?  I think that if KC pikcs an LT in the 1st round, they need to go for an impact player with there 2nd pick - either a WR or CB that can be of immediate help in the return game.  Early Doucet perhaps?  DT or ILB as the round 2 pick would be okay with me as well.

I've heard Weigman was retiring, and that Brian was moving to center.. That's the only reason I was talking about that. I like Weigman, he's a little undersized but he plays well with the big fellas. I have no idea about Kendrell Bell, I havn't seen or heard anything about it, I've been kinda lazy. Personally  I hope we don't get Lance Briggs, he makes alot of tackles, but that's because in their scheme they funnel the runner right to him, he's not that good in coverage from what I've seen. I could be wrong, but I think he'd be just a big salary cap hit, and do pretty much what Napoleon is doing, sucking up money and playing average. We could get a rookie 3rd rounder MLB and he'd do just as well in our cover 2, I think. Shit Kawika Mitchell is a FA let's bring him back he can do what Nap did, and he scored on defense this year, and had 3-4 awesome goal line stops (see Giants-Redskins games.) Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, DMC, did indeed look badass in the senior bowl, I was hoping he would drop till the 2nd round and we could nab him if Aqib Talib was off the board, but with his performance he will probably be gone. I still think Tyron Brackinridge will be a decent corner in the Cover 2, he played all last year with a torn bicep and still made some plays early in the season when he got playing time on D, and did ok on special teams too. I have a feeling they're gonna try playing Benny Sapp as one of our corners and that just doesn't float my boat. If we changed up one of our outside backers, as you say Roc, I'd rather see Donnie move inside, he played in the middle of San Diego, and he's starting to become just a bit slower than he was, so he'd be better not having to be matched up on slot receivers and such.. But good ideas, I like some of them.

Yeah, Rodgers, Allen,  Hali and Boone.... Oh man, and then having DJ and Donnie right behind them..... Who can stop us. I'm telling ya... I think KC is gonna be right back in the thick of things in '08!

Ok, so MAYBE we wont grab Faneca (as much as that hurts) So, my next question, is Weigman THAT bad that we need to think about replacing him? I mean, I dont remember him blowing too many assignments this past season. And I've always liked him as our Center. I just wish he would direct traffic a little more (ie. Jeff Saturday -IND or Kevin Mawae- TEN). And just like Faneca, he's been in the game for a little more than 10 years, so I dont see him retiring any time soon... We should stick with him... ESPECIALLY if the guy can grow out a freakin' pirate beard! I also think that he's good enough to take a young fella under his wing and teach him what we need in a Center... So, now we are looking at LT Jake Long, LG Brian Waters, C Casey Weigman, RG Ryan Lilja, and RT Damion McIntosh (he's no REAL #77 like "Nasty" Willie Roaf, but he's no bad either). I dont know.... I think we could probably do better...We'll see. Back to the Draft... Mr. Dom Rogers-Cromartie!! CB from TSU! Wow! This guy really blew me away at the Senior Bowl. Tackles great, always seemed to be around the ball, and interception. The kid was ballin'. Very physical, which is what we need. I mean, if we can somehow pick up Cromartie and CB Chevis Jackson from LSU (read blog posted on Jan 23 and watch video. Big ups to Adam!) then we'll REALLY have some guys we can work with. Then again, I'm really hoping we can bring in Marcus Trufant from SEA... Next, Didnt we already let go of Kendrell Bell?...but whatever, I think Donnie has a few more good years in him. He could be like out Junior Seau. So, what do we do at MLB?? Is Nap still gonna be in Red, white, and gold? Or are we grabbing another dude? Say Lance Briggs? Can DJ take up that role and call the shots out there? Or do we need to bring someone in? ..... Opinions...  

And btw, I know this will never happen, but I was just thinking about it earlier and decided to see what people thought about it. Anyone ever think about a 3-4 defense for us? We have 3 good D-linemen, and we have the linebackers for it. Let's start with the line, Allen, Hali, are good. Boone gets penetration all by himself, but our other DT position is a little weak. Tank is big enough he could come in and command a double team, and Turk has looked good the last part of the season, so they'd be great on rotation. On to our backers, Donnie Edwards and Kendrell Bell have already played in 3-4 schemes before. They're used to it. Napoleon Harris played in one for a bit in Oakland too, so he's used to it. Derrick Johnson is just a beast who makes plays all over the field, kinda like a Shawn Merriman type, only not so packed with 'Roids. Just a thought of mine. 3 out of our first 4 linebackers are used to a 3-4 already, and have not just been good, but EXCELLED at them. That's why Kendrell was so expensive. Anyways, in the back, Ty Law is used to it, from his stints in New England and New York... Pat Surtain got a little hint of it in Miami, they ran a 3-4/4-3 mix for a bit, before he came here. Page and Pollard are young and athletic enough to be decent no matter what we do. I know Gun isn't ever gonna do this, and it's just a pipe dream, but I think it would be nice, at least thrown in a couple plays a game where they are in a 3-4... T'would confuse the hell out of our opponents, and be a favorable matchup for us, I think.

I see what you're saying Roc,  and while I can't argue, that is a badass line, I see the problems with it. We aren't going to get both Faneca and Lilja, perhaps one, but not both, and I remember a press conference where Herm and Carl were talking about picking up a lineman that wasn't a household name... So at best I think we will get Lilja (still only like 27 years old, and was previously with the Chiefs) and this no-named guy. Even if we could land Faneca, does he want to play center? He's a pro-bowler at guard.... Who knows if he'd even like to come here. When a team goes 4-12 free agents usually just don't fight to jump on there.. We are better than our record, but many teams can say that. And yes, Rob, I think Shaun Rogers would be a great pickup. Hali/Rogers/Boone/Allen = dominating front 4, one of the best in the league. Then we get at least two new pieces for our O-line, and bam, we could be playoff calibre from the get-go.

football futures also reports the lions plan to trade or release Saun rogers that would be a great pick-up for the chiefs as a free agent if that happens.

I like the idea of taking Clady at 5. Football Futures. com say the cowboys are looking to deal spear or Carpenter. i think we could unload the 5th pick for both of Dallas' first and Carpenter. Carpenter could be Edwards eventual replacement. We could still get our tackle at 22, and Clady could possible be there at pick 22. Just a thought.

Yeah, you know, I DO understand we are wanting to get younger, but I dont really see a problem getting an older guy like Faneca. I mean sure, he's got 10 years behind him, so that would leave 3 to 5 more years. Which is plenty of time to develope and bring in a YOUNG O-Lineman. And thats what Allen Faneca could bring to the table... Experience. Plus, the guys got a killer lumberjack beard! We need more hard nosed dudes on our roster. Like Kyle Turley (except HE sucks). So again, to have Jake Long (LT), Waters (LG), McIntosh (RT), Lilja (RG), AND Faneca (C). Thats what I'm talking about! THEN etiher THIS draft or next year grab a couple young O- Lineman and have our guys teach them the ropes. And xxxlp, I hear what youre saying, and it does make sense. We DID go to the playoffs with a deminishing O-Line (Svitek & Turley) and LJ DID have 1,750 yards rushing... But imagine how much better we'd and #27 would be with an ENTIRE line thats good, not just "oh 2 or 3" or "well he's good enough" type of players. Yeah, sure, WE NEVER KNOW til it happens. Ok, but our front office needs to make the right moves in order to "be a playoff contender in '08" (Clark Hunt). We cant just develop young players and wait 'til they become goos enough to bring forth success to the franchise. We gotta develop them. Because quite frankly, I dont think that I nor can other of my fellow Chiefs fans go through another Oakland Raider type season. That cannot happen again or any time soon.

roc. I am with you. I don't see Faneca though. We are focused more on bringing in younger players. I can see Lilja though.  I don't want to miss out on Long/Clady. I want quality pieces, not quantity. Sign Lilja, Draft a high quality LT. We can get a good quality OG or C in rounds 2-3. Those positions last longer in the draft. Couple that with a good CB prospect and we have the start of a return to playoff contention.

If we leave Brian Waters at LG (instead of moving to center) then we don't necessarily need Jake Long or Clady, we just need someone who can get leverage and make some holes, not great, but consistently... There are at least 3-4 tackles that would do just fine on the left, beside pro-bowler Waters. If Bober or Niswanger is at center, but Faneca or Lilja is at RG, then the center position is fine as well. McIntosh should hold the right side up at least halfway decent. Better than he did LT at least. And if we do get Faneca, he could even play as LT, he played a bit at LT this year when the Steelers O-line had some injuries late in the year, and did just fine against playoff teams. O-line is the number one concern, but not just LT, Weigman is in his last years, if he doesn't retire this offseason, and if we got a nice center, and one guard to go along with Waters, we could still run the ball downhill, with a 'so-so' LT, like we did with Waters/Weigman/Shields, after Willie Roaf retired (LJ had 1750 yards that season.) Our RT is still better off than the RT we had then (Turley) and any of these rookie O-linemen I think is an upgrade over Svitek at LT, (Although I do think Svitek will be our RT of the future) we finished 16th in total offense that year, with Damon Huard playing most of the games. And we made the playoffs... If we can fill 2 holes on the offensive line instead of one, I'd take it over just getting the LT. Then we can address the KR/PR/CB problem (perhaps all in one pick, a la Pacman Jones) and get a sure fire LT next year. And besides, if you look on the draft score-card, our pick is worth more than both of Dallas's first rounders, they'd have to give us a 3rd or 4th (at least) to make up the difference. Carl is all about quantity, not so much quality. So you never know. We can still land a decent LT, a nice C or G, and then CB/DT/WR, and probably get a LB that would be nice on special teams for a few years until Donnie calls it quits. Of course most of that rests upon if Dallas wants to trade. And if we sign at least one free agent lineman (I'm hoping on two, or at least Lilja) then this all becomes a moot point.

merlinnj, I totally agree with you. There is no way that we can drop our draft pick into the 20's. Then we'd miss out on Jake Long and Ryan Clady and who knows whether Sam Baker would still be on the board. There's no gaurantee. I kind of got over the fact that we may not grab McFadden, and I realized that working our O-line would be the best thing we could do right now. Brian Waters, Jake Long, Damion McIntosh, (hopefully) Ryan Lilja would be the offensive line we need to make holes for LJ and keep Brodie upright... Q: Should I (we) as a fan, have any hopes that we'd attempt to pick up Allen Faneca as our Center? or will we stick with Weigman?

xxxlp, I think Clady will go in the to 15, maybe to 10. If you trade down, as you propose, you will be getting a lesser OT prospect. It could work out, you never know. My feeling is that you don't want to drop levels in quality like this. It's one thing to go from #5 to #8 or #10. It's quite another to drop down into the 20's. LT is so critical a position, I don't pass up the chance of getting someone who could/should be a pro bowl level performer.  

If McFadden is gone, I doubt there is any chance that Jerry Jones will trade with us. But a man can hope. If we can get those two picks, I don't think Clady will be gone by then, we can pick up Clady (for cheaper) maybe get another O-linemen, or a CB/WR, and then still get the guard in the 2nd round. Sounds good to me, but I doubt it will happen.

Steve do you think Dallas will trade with us if McFadden isn't on the board? I think the only way Dallas wants to move up is if they really want McFadden.

If I were Dallas I would stay put and get two solid players. They don't really have to draft out of need either so they can take the best players on the board.

i think we will trade our the fifth pick for dallas' two first rounders and get early doucet and chris williams

Merlin I have been hearing you on the Parcells 3-4 thing, but we also have to remember he is not the coach. We will just have to wait and see what the Big Tuna will do, but I think he will most likely trade down.

I agree with almost all of this except for the Rams pick. They have plenty of linemen, it's just the fact that all of them got injured last year. They were down to 3rd string in 2 positions, and 2nd string in 2-3 positions. That's not good. But it is good on another level. They got to see the strengths and weaknesses of their lesser guys, and they will plug a couple of those 2nd-3rd stringers in with their now uninjured starters, to form a formidable o-line. Even their patchwork line is better by far than our starting line. Yikes. I think the Rams go defense. Maybe someone to compliment Carikker, a Carikker/Dorsey (or Ellis) line would be damn scary for years and years to come. I still think Jake will fall to us. And we'll take him, not Clady, although I think Clady will be of the most benefit to us at LT.

Adam:Dorsey doesn't really fit the NT position and the Tuna loves the 3-4, so that's where I am coming in for Chris Long. Jason Taylor is old and you can never have too many pass rushers. If Miami can't trade the pick, I would not be shocked to see either Long picked #1 over Dorsey. If Dorsey goes #1, then the Rams could easily take Jake Long as you suggest.  

And Merlin, no way Chris Long goes No. 1. Then again, Super Mario did two years ago, and Chris will have a ton of hype surrounding him. Still, MIA is actually pretty strong at DE. And the Tuna won't fall for the hype.

You're killin' me, Drew!

The one bright spot in this ugly dreary fucked up rainy day?  The Raiders are going to implode...again...for the 4th time since Gruden left.  Yay!  That also means that Mr. Davis will be making the draft pick, so I think the homeless guy who sleeps outside my neighborhood 7/11 might be getting chosen 1st overall.  I should sign him up to my agency for representation.  

Right now, I think it's a pretty realistic draft. My biggest bone to pick would be ATL. I see them going QB in the first round. I am leaning toward this top 5:Mia: Chris LongRams: Glenn DorseyAlt: Matt RyanOak, Run DMCKC: Jake Long. Anyway you cut it, we are on the same page. Long/Clady in the first round, another OL or CB in the second.

By the way your Mock Draft is way more realsitic than any other.  The Rams would be stupid to pass up on Long at OT.