Oct22nd

Do You Go for Two?

AUTHOR: Blog Z | IN: Chiefs | COMMENTS: 6 Comments

Adam “Hot for” Teicher andHerm Edwards (Getty Images) Jason Unfit-lock both were very critical after the game of Herm’s decision to go for a two-point conversion after the Chiefs scored their fourth quarter touchdown, putting them up 12-7:

Teicher:

Herm Edwards joined the Chiefs with a reputation for making strange game-day decisions. None in his time with the Chiefs was stranger than his decision to have his team try for two points after a fourth-quarter touchdown Sunday against the Raiders at the Oakland Coliseum. The Chiefs took a 12-7 lead on Larry Johnson’s 1-yard touchdown run with 11 1/2 minutes left. Having Dave Rayner kick the extra point would have meant two Oakland field goals would have tied but not beaten the Chiefs.

Whitlock:

But most troubling was Edwards’ decision to go for two points after the Chiefs scored a go-ahead TD with 11 minutes, 30 seconds to play. Johnson’s 1-yard plunge made the score 12-7. Given how poorly Oakland’s offense had performed, the smart, easy decision was to kick the extra point, which would force Oakland to kick two field goals to tie. There was no reason to think the Raiders could score another TD. Their running game had given them nothing. Daunte Culpepper had been inconsistent and inaccurate at best. What the Chiefs wanted to avoid was bringing kicker Sebastian Janikowski into the picture as a potential game-winner.

I’ve honestly searched my soul for the last 15 hours, trying to contemplate why this was such a bad move. Think about it– 12-7 early in the fourth after scoring a touchdown. Three things can happen now:

  • Attempt and make an extra point — Chiefs 13, Raiders 7.
  • Attempt and make a two-point conversion — Chiefs 14, Raiders 7.
  • Fail at either a one- or two-point conversion –Chiefs 12, Raiders 7.

Now, according to each and every one of the 36,800,000 2 point conversion charts on Google, when ahead by 5 points, you go for two. It’s like a law. Up to this point, Dante Culpepper’s QB rating was a strong 103.7 after putting up 80 yards and 7 points in 51 seconds. Who’s to say that Oakland can’t put up another TD immediately after the Chiefs kicked off? Or, another way to look at it…


1-point 2-point
Best Case 2 FGs tie; 1 TD wins 2 FGs lose; 1 TD ties
Worse Case 2 FGs or 1 TD win 2 FGs or 1 TD win

All I’m saying is that in my coaching experience (limited to Madden 2005 and NCAA 2007, available at fine retailers throughout the greater Kansas City area), you follow the rules of the two-point conversion chart, even if the opponent hasn’t shown much of an offensive spark all day. Please, someone explain to me the logic in not making it a one-possession game.

6 Comments on Do You Go for Two?

  1. Zach says:

    As a coach I understand what Herm was trying to do. He wanted to go up by a touchdown. I dont blame him. Sure we can all look back now and say he should have done this and that. HINDSIGHT IS 20-20. If they make it, then no one complains. They should have if the ref wasn't in D-BOs way. I like the call because it shows that he TRUSTS his offense.

    Now to Whitlock:
    Jason "FATBOY" Whitlock is trying to say that the Oakland Offense hadn't done anything and Culpepper was inconsistent. Jason probably didn't even watch the game because he didn't remember Culpepper scoring on 2 plays against us. Also that his WRs were dropping everything in the world, not him missing the passes. Whitlock needs to stick to the national media because he has lost touch with the local sports. GET LOST FAT MAN!

  2. John says:

    herm did the right thing…if you are up by 5 and don't make the conversion either 2 FG's or a TD beats you but if you make it 2 FG's still gives you the win…no question herm did the right thing…Page still saved our asses…again (best 7th round pick playing in the league right now, no doubt)

  3. CWebb says:

    Adam and John – I love you both. Thank you for seeing the light. Any way that someone can make this a poll on this post?

  4. rockchalk says:

    i agree 100%.i would go for 2 every time in that situation, and agreed with herm when he did it. a good throw from damon (can we PLEASE play brodie croyle now????) and we go up 14-7.

  5. Paradise says:

    Scenario:  We go for one…We are up 6…on the first play of Oakland's drive, they pass to the wide receiver on a screen…Ty Law falls down…We lose. CWebb is on the money here.  You HAVE to go for two.  I can't even believe that WHAT?lock would argue otherwise!

  6. CWebb says:

    Paradise – your eloquent blog-writing skills are only surpassed by your fine facial features. Anyone else want to agree with me? I've got compliments to pass around.

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