Halftime Heroes and Zeros: Preseason Game Three

Love following heroes episodes, it came from boring into a fine tv series now. After watching first few eps, Was like, its another xmen . But it turned out to be fun to watch, I really hope new episoded will be released sooner.

I hear you shawn, but I meant natural as in  ability... sorry... He is more suited with his physical abilities to play right tackle... didnt mean to confuse.

anybody who wants us to start huard or printers isnt thinking longterm. croyle is the answer for the next couple seasons, an extra year of practice will do little to make him a better QB. will svitek and the rest of the offensive line is at blame, plain and simple. croyle will throw plenty of INT's, my guess is 18, but that is what it takes to develop a QB. i mean, peyton manning threw 28 (!!!) INT's his first season! croyle needs to be the guy, if we go with huard we will be setting our development back a year.

Well be fine but if MAC is out longer than expected it could be scary. We will still lost to Chicago, I hate to say it :)

:) its just preaseason... :) , I was just playing...lol, I think the team will be fine, once mac is back in it allows watters to do what he does... and he wont have to compensate for the left tackle. and with LJ back they cant just come after which ever QB is in there... *got yas Zach... *  :)

Actually, Jordan Black's natural position is left tackle, that is what he played in college.  There wasn't an OL that was worth drafting in the first round when we were picking and the last of the better choices was taken well before we picked in the 2nd round.  This next draft is going to have a ton of very good O-Lineman that we can pick and choose from, depending on how we finish this year of course.

Also how can you say LJ will not continue his greatness when you haven't even seen him play with this team?

What OL could we have drafted that would have started and made an impact this season?

and zach we are also talking the loss,...  maybe if the o-line dont work this year,... of a years worth of contracts... shortened by the idiocy of king carl... and his who knows who he'll draft policies...look back we never drafted a wideout to put the off, of vermiels over the top... and now we dont have a line so far... :) to produce anymore the greatness of our beloved LJ...who needs to have somebody make a block...hahaha

did you forget my face...lol, I never give up...hahahaha just didnt need to see us drafting a wideout when we need to be able to run the ball and throw the ball.... it's been obvious the last four years we needed to try to add to this line, and time and time again... we find other players instead... yes I know its practice, and mac will improve the line alot...watters cant play both tackle and guard at the same time... what bothered me was letting black go to houston... when all they needed to do was slide him to his natural poss. on the right side... we also have older guards older tackles , and even a getting older center... the find a O-lineman theory most people use, of...*we can find a lineman in free agency doesnt work as many times as it's tried... and teams dont let great lineman loose to often...I blame King Carl for not picking up a veteran wideout and drafting a lineman...there were many more oppertunities to do that than to do what he did... with drafting a wideout and bringing in a lineman.

Beard, Big MAC will be back...

I agree we should get a young tackle next year, but we still have 16 regular season games to play this year. Lets not give up already. In the words of a great man, Allen Iverson, "We talkin' about practice?"

I would be just as happy with drafting a guard next year...

finally people want an O-line... just wish the chiefs could have read this before they drafted this year.  our tackle this year is in indy...dammitt!!!... maybe next year we can draft a Tackle??????? before we draft what I am allready thinking ...will be a fan must in drafting a corner...hahaha, LET US PRAY.... for a tackle next year.... :)

I simply can't understand people wanting Huard over Croyle.  Huard did a great job as a backup last year, but he's only a few years younger than Green. He also had his success running a dumbed down offense that relied too much on Johnson. Despite his flash-in-the-pan success, he still has never proved that he can be THE man leading a team any more than Croyle has.I'm willing to put up with a lousy season if it means the Chiefs will be great for years to come. Put the new guy in and let him get his experience.  He wont learn how to not throw interceptions in practice or riding the bench.Whether this year or next year, he is going to make rookie mistakes until hes in the game and gets the experience.  Might as well do it when there are alot of other young players learning and making mistakes at the same time.

Exactly! Like I said without an OL it doesn't matter what you got back there. Unless it is Larry Johnson. People might think I am crazy for saying this but at the end of this season I think our OL will be better than last seasons.

I know people will think I am crazy right now but with Mac and Larry back it is going to look 10x better. Will Shields was a great player but last season he wasn't the Will that dominated people. He got worked in the Playoffs and knew it was time to retire.

Look, the bad play by Croyle was NOT his fault alone. Yes, he threw another INT, so what. Our defense has shown that even while playing just base coverages they can more than overcome his mistakes, I can only imagine what they will be able to do when they go all out.

Croyle can't block for himself and he can't catch the passes that he throws. That responsibility falls to the O-Line an recievers/rb. It wouldn't have mattered if Huard was playing last night because he would have run into the same issues that Croyle did which was basically running for his life all game long because he had no protection at all. Once we get McIntosh back it will be a totally different story. Herm summed it up best when he said "He struggled tonight, but he didn't get much help either."

Huard has not shown that he is a better choice than Croyle as the starter so in that case you go with youth and the future which in our case is Croyle.

Waters has been looking like he is not as aggressive compared to the past. This OL needs to gel and it might take time. Remember we still need big MAC back before anything.

Plus are OTs will look better with LJ back because they cant go upfield as much and rush the QB. If they do LJ will take a carry for 20+yds.

No bandwagon starting here. The only wagon starting I will be involved with is the one that will be draging whichever qb starts butt off the field, if our o-line doesnt start earning their paychecks! And by the way hasnt anyone noticed mr waters lack of domaince maybe he road big willie's coat tails ?

Well lets not start the Jeff Terrell bandwagon either :)

Jeff Terrell looks so far like the smatest qb we have. I know it was the third stringers, but com'on the kid drops back got rid of the ball quickly and just looks like he knew where he wanted to go with the ball. And when will everyone get off this casey printers bandwagon, I know Croyle is having some growing pains but did anyone care to notice the stats for manning,mcnabb,brees in there first years as starters? The chiefs need to finally develop a qb of their own and stop using some 10yr vet retreads, I like Damon dont get me wrong but do you think he scares any defenses? Croyles arm does just look at some of the throws that kid makes let the kid take his lumps for the first time in my time on this earth the chiefs are building for the future ! And as for mr. printers he needs to get the center qb exchange down before he makes this fan a follower .... 

S Chad Williams is damn awful... He loves not hitting people and is one of the worst players I have seen on a NFL field.

Printers was playing with you and me blocking for him, Redbeard. Tre Stallings? C'mon, man.

This guy deserves some credit. That pass he threw to Bowe that D-Bo dropped was a perfect pass.

I'm not saying he should start, but it is time to admit that the kid has talent. If he can just hold onto the ball and excercise a bit more patience. I think batted balls, the fumbles and the reliance on his legs all come from hurrying himself. I think he can be good when he gets more experience and the game slows down.

Same with Croyle.  In retrospect, I blame a lot of tonight on Svitek, no L.J., no Dame, Parker, vanilla playcalling, etc...

and dont worry to much there will still be people being dropped from other teams... and from what I have seen of our tackles it may not be to hard to find a better tackle.and btw I liked Black at tackle just right tackle not left...hahaha

again he beats up on third stringers

hahahaha Printers is my hero. He managed to get this offence in their half. Im sold. Printers starts at season opener. haha go chiefs

I am not worried.  We know that Huard can be an OK QB for us.  With LJ and McIntosh playing we should be OK.  This is going to be a long year offensively.  Defensively, we should be much improved.  It will be like the old days when our D was great and our O stunk.  It is obvious, that Croyle needs another year of practice before he starts.  Cheer up!  We won't be the worst team in the leaque.

Im sorry to say Redbeard but i dont think Eck has a chance this year. I dont think any rookie does. If the quaterback cant get the ball to the receivers then how can they show off there skills as receivers. We need Quaterback throwing 17/19, that way every body gets a look at what they can do.

MR ECK, and like I said try putting him in there as well... I would rather see Kennison , Tony G., Eck, and Bowe outside.... stopp trying to force sammy and hannon and webb down our mouths... in the passing and running game that makes the most sence, and I agree we Need an O-line, I personally think if MAC gets back and healthy it will make a world of diff. with him and LJ both back... *I HOPE*.......... :)

im up for giving the kid a chance, but seriously, hes going to need another year to develop. And please dont anyone give me bs about it being the preseason and it doesnt matter. Sure the teams arent giving it 100% but atleat they can play basic football. Is it the play calling??? Im not sure. But 3 completed passes. what about basic slants and hooks? surely someone on the staff must realize Croyle is having a terrible game and try to make it as easy as possible. Ive seen high school players that can make those throws? someone please explain why the offence cant make a simple pass completetion?