Big Willies Style?

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Right now two Wills — Willie Roaf and Will Shields — are dominating The COAT OL Group. You already know all about those two, so I’ll break down the rest of the OL field for you…

Jim Tyrer – Made eight All-Star game appearances (AFL and NFL), played in 180 consecutive games for the Kansas City Chiefs and was named AFL Offensive Lineman of the Year in 1969, the year he helped the Chiefs win the Super Bowl.

John Alt - This stud tackle played his entire career with the Chiefs and made two Pro Bowls. One of the most beloved Chiefs who ever donned the Red, White and Gold.

Dave Hill - Played in 149 games for the Chiefs and was a key member of the ’69 Super Bowl team.

Ed Budde - Seven-time All-Star (AFL and NFL) who played all of his 14 seasons with the Chiefs. This dominate member of the ’69 Super Bowl team was selected to the AFL’s All-Time Team.

Brian Waters -This current Chief is a two-time Pro Bowler and the only offensive lineman to ever win Offensive Player of the Week in either conference. In my mind, he’s been our best lineman on either side of the ball each of the last two seasons.

E.J. Holub – Five-time AFL All-Star that excelled as both a LB and C, which I thought only could be done at the high school level. Another key member of the 69′ Super Bowl team. This Wikipedia quote aptly sums up what Holub was all about…

Even after nine knee surgeries, Holub was a leader, a “holler guy”, and he was a team player, enduring pain to lead his team. He would spend hours in the training room, watching blood and liquid drain from his knee, then go out to the field and perform as though he was physically “100 percent”.

Jack Rudnay – Point blank — one of the best centers ever to play in the NFL. Made four straight Pro Bowls and played in 144 games in a row for the Chiefs.

Tim Grunhard – Speaking of great centers, Grunhard was another one. He only played for the Chiefs and suited up for an impressive 169 games during his career. A pivotal piece of some of the greatest Marty-Ball teams.

Casey Wiegmann – Another Chiefs center, the current one, who is extremely underrated. Shouldn’t be an afterthought here just because he’s never made a Pro Bowl. After all, the AFC Pro Bowl team can’t just have Chiefs offensive lineman.

Dave Szott - A warrior who was a great Chief for a decade despite being only a seventh-round draft choice.

There you have it, ladies and fellas, your O-Line breakdown. The picture is growing clearer with each passing day, so let’s keep The COAT rolling.

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redbeard

Here you go Big Chief...
the stats part of the question applied to running backs and Wideouts/TEs' previously voted for...

when we had enormous voting for Holmes and for LJ, and a lack of votes for Haynes and others with pretty equal stats, btw Haynes did do the return thing as well... The players stats were used, and quoted by allot voters as to why they voted a certain way...

and

with the TE/ Wideout poll which just closed a few days ago... with that poll we have Tony G. a future Hall of Famer most likely unquestioned.
with Otis Taylor getting the second slide into the coat votings...
with the wideouts , it seams most evident that we selected Otis Taylor over players who had better stats , mainly Stephon Paige who actually had the best across the board stats than even the person who he played with at that time in Carlos Carson,selected receiver Taylor didnt match up either although he did win a Superbowl for us.
and even if looking at Tony(sorry but true)...
Paige was even better on third downs.

So you see the point in the do we select our vote because of a persons stats or do we find a connection to that said player because of an accomplishment...

was asked by me...

simply we selected RB by stats and Receivers not by stats...lol

just an observation

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big_chief87

o-line seems to be the most under appreciated position by football fans. statisticly it's hard to glorify o-linemen. at least d-line has sacks and tackles. nevertheless i still think the o-line is a top 3 position in football. shields for c.o.a.t.

I sometimes over evaluate the players...lol

and I was curious to the questions answer.

who me never...lol

Adam

You're just doing what you do... keeping everybody in check, making sure we're REALLY covering all the angles. Nothing wrong with that at all.

I was just wanting to know why they voted the way they vote....nothing more or less to that...lol

what I meant was do they use stats or do they use something else , and if they use stats do they use the stats every time they vote...for a position.
And does it matter to them on the time spent in a Chiefs uniform, that was all I was meaning

Everyone has their own reasons for voting the way the do. The collective result won't always make total sense, but I think that we will see a fair tournament, with a clear-cut winner ultimately prevailing. I do think more recent players have a slight advantage, but not too big of one.

btw the number of them is FOUR... :)
just saying ....we will win with the trench guys

now as for coat I don't see a lineman taking that beautiful coat...lol
I did vote for Szott btw, just so he received one.

Roaf is in my opinion one of the top two OTs' to ever play period but as a Chief to be wearing the coat pushes the bubble to far for my opinion
And has anyone realized, the number of Superbowl players even considered for the coat,
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
makes us wonder if we need a O-LINE!!!!!!!

man szott was increadable. roaf was probably the best run blocker i've seen. but how can you honestly go with anyone but shields? how long was he here? 13 yearsish? and pretty much a probowl year every one of them. not many chiefs have done that. in my mind he is the C.O.A.T.

ok now I like the two leading guys but...
I will wait to see if the voting launches W. Lanier first.....with a recent player second before I think that most people see todays players as better....
And if the time in our precious colors, means as much as what the player has done in his own lifetime.
even on other teams...

mainly I perceive with these votes not entirly on wether or not a player as a running back was with this team more than half his career or if a tackle played half his career here makes a difference,

and a QB plays three years and makes number 2

Even stats were quoted multiple times in voting for running backs, while for receivers stats got a little forgotten, not that Tony doesnt deserve the top votes there...

what my point is I was wondering why we are voting one way for a certain poss. and voting a different way for the next and so on...

do the STATS only apply to certain players poss.
more than they do when we see other poss players???

hopefully you guys can enlighten me on the reasoning you vote a certain way, and use a different way to decide on the next poss. thank you

merlinnj

I voted for Jack Rudney. I like Willie Roaf, but I don't think he was a Chief long enough to vote for him before Alt or Tyrer for best OT, let along the entire OL. If I was doing an all-time Chief's OL, I would be looking at Alt, Tyrer for OT, Shields and Ed Budde (not Brad Budde!!! lol) for G and Rudney over Grunard for C. If Brian Waters keeps it up, he could crack the G duo. I still love Dave Szott. How much would we all love to see another 7th round pick like him?